and then the fight started

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Could I sell my 69, my 48 CJ2A and put together the rest to buy one of these new Dodges that do nine second quarter miles and whatever else? Sure I could but then what? I still enjoy wrenching on old iron. I enjoy cruising around town in a car that every nut and bolt I put together
I guess im the odd man out as these cars just dont appeal to me, however if I was really wealthy with a six car garage, I might buy one for speculation if nothing else
 
Honestly, I'd rather have my 73 Satellite than a new car.

Going fast is fun, but having a classic that can be used as a daily driver is also fun.
 
If i told my wife i was going to buy that new Hellcat or whatever it is , she would say , what color are you thinkin .
 
jimjimjimmy said:
If i told my wife i was going to buy that new Hellcat or whatever it is , she would say , what color are you thinkin .
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Ditto. My wife doesn’t give a crap how I spend my money because I never would do it if something else is needed first. IF I came home with that, I’m not sure but I think her first words would be, “Let’s go! Take me for a ride!” OR “Give me the keys so I can check it out.” In which, she would get the keys no problem. She wouldn’t be gone too long.
 
Or she wouldn't make it home, no offence intended. The truth is, most average people could not handle a 1000 horsepower street car. Look and see how many Hellcat engine-trans combos are available on and off with very low miles. If we all had bottomless pockets-we would all have one. I can only imagine what the insurance would be on one of those.
Quite a few years ago, at Woodhouse, a Ford dealer in Omaha NE that branched off selling other brands. Anyhow they started selling Dodges, they had a department called The Viper Pit, they would customize Vipers for customers. This guy from Kansas City ordered a new Viper and had them install a twin turbo kit, it was dynoed at over 1000 HP. He brought it back a week later and said he didn't want it, it scared the hell out of him. So I think, this much horsepower isn't for everybody. I guess as long as people are wrecking them, we'll have a supply of engines-trans for our A,B and C bodies.
rumblefish360 said:
Ditto. My wife doesn’t give a crap how I spend my money because I never would do it if something else is needed first. IF I came home with that, I’m not sure but I think her first words would be, “Let’s go! Take me for a ride!” OR “Give me the keys so I can check it out.” In which, she would get the keys no problem. She wouldn’t be gone too long.
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lemondana said:
I'm kind of thinking that Mopar jumped the gun on the EV bullshit a little bit. I'm afraid that a lot of could be Challenger and Charger buyers will jump ship, to the blue oval or GM.. They should have built both and see which ones sell the best.
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That's because Stellanits Bought Dodge, as Chi Coms! It's intentional and Walter P. Chrysler's GGSon KNEW it WAS GONNA BE LIKE THAT!
 
lemondana said:
Or she wouldn't make it home, no offence intended. The truth is, most average people could not handle a 1000 horsepower street car. Look and see how many Hellcat engine-trans combos are available on and off with very low miles. If we all had bottomless pockets-we would all have one. I can only imagine what the insurance would be on one of those.
Quite a few years ago, at Woodhouse, a Ford dealer in Omaha NE that branched off selling other brands. Anyhow they started selling Dodges, they had a department called The Viper Pit, they would customize Vipers for customers. This guy from Kansas City ordered a new Viper and had them install a twin turbo kit, it was dynoed at over 1000 HP. He brought it back a week later and said he didn't want it, it scared the hell out of him. So I think, this much horsepower isn't for everybody. I guess as long as people are wrecking them, we'll have a supply of engines-trans for our A,B and C bodies.
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I know a guy that has a 2011 Shelby GT500 that he had some serious modification done on that pushed it 750 rwhp. It will break the tires loose at any speed now, and he says he actually had more fun with it when it was still stock as it was far more drivable.
 
missing linc said:
I know a guy that has a 2011 Shelby GT500 that he had some serious modification done on that pushed it 750 rwhp. It will break the tires loose at any speed now, and he says he actually had more fun with it when it was still stock as it was far more drivable.
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He needs to Mini tub it, and get some seriously wide sticky tires
 
YY1 said:
Just heard gm killed the camaro after 23/24.

...but hinted it may come back...presumably as an EV.
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It may prove to be popular, but I reckon that they'll learn, just like Harley did on the V-Rod, that people that buy those products expect a certain sound and soul to the beast. Chrysler certainly sees it, but obviously, the execution should have been executed by firing squad and not the electric chair.

HD V-Rod buyers were different than the standard Harley customer, and HD cast them out. If GM embraces them, it could take off, but I highly doubt it will be the conventional performance car customers. It'll be young people who didn't grow up with it, with.....lots....of....money. Wait....that doesn't make sen.........

Plus, I've yet to see the EV sound or massive screens on a dashboard moisten any panties, and that's what makes this whole thing spin.
 
missing linc said:
I know a guy that has a 2011 Shelby GT500 that he had some serious modification done on that pushed it 750 rwhp. It will break the tires loose at any speed now, and he says he actually had more fun with it when it was still stock as it was far more drivable.
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I have considered putting my Dart back to a Slant 6 on more than one occasion.
 
I actually have seen the "tech heavy" design appeal to a certain class of buyer.

Our 30 year old son bought a tesla model 3 about 2 years ago.
He's an upwardly mobile computer network/security specialist.

RAVED about that (what seems like) 40" control screen.

There are more like him out there.
I was at one lime but I prefer my cars more old-school.
I will note that I'm the exception to most stereotypical IT guy patterns.
However, I did work with a LOT of people that would have been all over that car if it were available then.

Honestly it WAS super fun to drive.

IMO people need to embrace the whir and not try to make them sound like something they're not.
 
YY1 said:
I actually have seen the "tech heavy" design appeal to a certain class of buyer.

Our 30 year old son bought a tesla model 3 about 2 years ago.
He's an upwardly mobile computer network/security specialist.

RAVED about that (what seems like) 40" control screen.

There are more like him out there.
I was at one lime but I prefer my cars more old-school.
I will note that I'm the exception to most stereotypical IT guy patterns.
However, I did work with a LOT of people that would have been all over that car if it were available then.

Honestly it WAS super fun to drive.

IMO people need to embrace the whir and not try to make them sound like something they're not.
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Jeez, he sounds exactly like my 34 year old stepson. All he talked about was "Tesla this and Tesla that" for years. He did like my 70 Dart, especially when I drove like it was meant to be driven, hard and fast when he was in his teens and early 20s. Now he's a computer analyst programmer for Amazon, lives in Virginia, and of course, owns a tesla model 3, and raves about what a great car it is and how he can't wait until he can enable the "full self driving mode" so that he doesn't have to be bothered with such simple things as driving himself to work.
 
Yep. See what I mean.

How many more 30 something, reasonably high paying tech job holders are out there?
My guess is a fairly large number.

I tried to instill the "old car/HiPo" seed in him when he was about 12 by doing some squirrely limited slip "drifting" in a large damp parking lot in my Dakota R/T but it didn't take.

He did want a mustang for a while in the late '00's but that didn't last either.

Thankfully the "see- you can fix this computer issue by looking here, and here, and maybe here....." seed did take and has provided him with a good career and earning potential.
 
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