BORGESON steering box

Discussion in 'Suspension, Steering and Chassis' started by christmas53, Aug 13, 2018.

  1. 67Dart273

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    ????I don't see the bashing??
     
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    Yes. The new box is worlds ahead of the 1950s Saginaw box.
     
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      I'm running Bergman's kit and so far it's been pretty good.

      Just like @GMachineDartGT said, the coupler makes it so that you don't have to hack up your steering column. If you want to, you can easily go back to stock. I think that has some value right there.

      Not only is the steering a bit tighter and more predictable, but also I have NO MORE LEAKS! My old box leaked quite a bit. It was $950 (give or take) bucks well spent, I think.
       
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        To be honest, when I installed my Borg.box, it leaked like a sieve.
        The welder had left a pinhole, deep in a corner. Borgeson offered to send a new one and I could send mine back, but living in Europe, the hassle and the time it would take, wasn't worth it for me and fixed the leak with a simple punch tool.

        I've been enjoying the steering box every day for over 5 years already.
         
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          What kind of engine do you have? I've got a '68 Cuda Formula S with a 340 and I'm looking to install one one of these boxes and the Borgeson Saginaw pump. Just wondering if you had any issues making everything fit. My car has a manual box currently but originally had power steering from the factory.
           
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          The only problem I had was one header pipe was hitting . I am running dougs headers 1 5/8. I tried to dent the header but was not able to. I put a 1/4" shim under the driver side motor mount it worked out fine. I love the gearbox like driving a new car.
           
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            I'm running the same headers and it hit too.
             
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            Running tti 1 7/8 and not hitting.
             
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            Let me know if you need one of my bolt in kits!
             
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              And free shipping!
               
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              I did buy the coupler - it should arrive tomorrow. I'll post an update once it's all installed!
               
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              Where did you buy the box and fittings?
               
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              I bought everything through Summit
               
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              Boo. Mutilate your column and use the fits nothing hoses...
               
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              Well I do have the BAC coupler, so hopefully no mutilation will be necessary. Can you elaborate on the hoses? I bought the Borgeson hoses, but it's going to be a while before I install everything. Didn't realize the BAC hoses were different from the Borgeson set. Any other details/info greatly appreciated, I was happy to find this thread.
               
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              My fittings allow the use of your original hoses. I provide an OE pressure hose if required.
               
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              Bergman Auto Craft - Home of the Modern Muscle Car
               
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              Very cool, thanks for clarifying. The guy I bought the car from had a manual box installed, so I don't have the original hoses.
               
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              I put this box on my 64 Sport Fury. Due to the engine sitting farther forward than 66-up b bodies, My headers hit badly in a couple spots. The headers fit fine with the stock ps box. I bought the kit from GMachine. Kept getting the squealing at full turns. There are two fittings he sells. Mine was originally the smaller one. The coupler is expensive, but works great. Had to shim the box a little to get a straight line to the column. Ended up also getting his pump, which puts out more pressure. When it was all done, it works really well. I know the cars are different, but my main point is they worked with me to sort out the issues. Exchanged the fitting for the larger one, and answered all my questions. I have the Firm Feel in my Dart, and it's nice, but just about the same price when it's all done.
               
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