Brainstormin' 440 vs 5.9 ...

[33IMP]

With all the discussion, it has made me curious. I think with headers, and fresh 452 heads, it should push about 300 + horsepower. I'll probably start with the street dominator and my 750 Brawler. Tune from there. So, we'll try it in slug form, or slow motion first LOL. Unless it goes 15's, then I'll say "why bother?" and go back to the 5.9 Then again, my 100% stock-never-taken-apart 318 with the only addition of 4bbl/headers ran it well into the 15's, I'm expecting slightly more with 122 cubes, and much better heads.

• I do think I'll have to drop my gears from 4.30's down a bit. 440 will run out of lungs in 800 ft.

Well, yeah, an RV 440 without a cam change will quit well shy of 5000. Maybe shy of 4000! The 390 hp 440 Sixpack horsepower was at a rated 4700.
Maybe you could try some 15x33s?

 

[318willrun]

Well, yeah, an RV 440 without a cam change will quit well shy of 5000. Maybe shy of 4000! The 390 hp 440 Sixpack horsepower was at a rated 4700.
Maybe you could try some 15x33s?

I can just throw 3.23's in it. RV 440 should love them... but I'll try the 4.30's first and a quick cruise will let me know

 

[abdywgn]

[FOR SALE] - OEM Mopar 1962/63 413 Cylinder Heads #2206324
here are some cylinder heads for the RV 440.

 

[318willrun]

[FOR SALE] - OEM Mopar 1962/63 413 Cylinder Heads #2206324
here are some cylinder heads for the RV 440.

Thanks! You are correct, the closed chamber heads would help it a lot! But....That would be about 250 shipped, then another 700 refreshing at the machine shop, making sure they are flat, new springs/valves perhaps.... at that point you are so close to new stealth aluminum heads I'd just go that way...

 

[318willrun]

Anyone with any experience with the speedmaster rockers for BB's ??? Ones to avoid... ones that work... Thinking of Black Friday sale....
Thanks !

These have decent reviews....
Mopar Chrysler BB 383 440 1.5 Stainless Steel Roller Rocker Arm Set w/ Shafts

Mopar Chrysler BB 383 440 1.6 Ratio Stainless Steel Roller Rocker Arm Set Shafts

Mopar Chrysler BB 383 440 Shaft 1.5 Ratio DNA® Aluminum Roller Rocker Arms Set


And these have no reviews....
Mopar Chrysler BB 383 440 1.5 Ratio Aluminum Roller Rocker Arms & Shafts

 

[318willrun]

Anyone with any experience with the speedmaster rockers for BB's ??? Ones to avoid... ones that work... Thinking of Black Friday sale....
Thanks !

These have decent reviews....
Mopar Chrysler BB 383 440 1.5 Stainless Steel Roller Rocker Arm Set w/ Shafts

Mopar Chrysler BB 383 440 1.6 Ratio Stainless Steel Roller Rocker Arm Set Shafts

Mopar Chrysler BB 383 440 Shaft 1.5 Ratio DNA® Aluminum Roller Rocker Arms Set


And these have no reviews....
Mopar Chrysler BB 383 440 1.5 Ratio Aluminum Roller Rocker Arms & Shafts

I mean, I love Harland Sharp but man, the price.... (I know, buy once - cry once)

Harland Sharp S70015K Harland Sharp Heavy-Duty Roller Rockers | Summit Racing

 

[RustyRatRod]

I mean, I love Harland Sharp but man, the price.... (I know, buy once - cry once)

Harland Sharp S70015K Harland Sharp Heavy-Duty Roller Rockers | Summit Racing

That seems like a lotta cryin to me.

 

[TT5.9mag]

lol $500 budget.

Bye bye.

 

[318willrun]

lol $500 budget.

Bye bye.

When i "build" the 440, there will be a budget, but not 500. LOL

But first, we'll try it without spending a Franklin

 

[318willrun]

Going to make this more visible,, in it's own thread.

Anyone with any experience with the speedmaster rockers for BB's ??? Ones to avoid... ones that work... Thinking of Black Friday sale....
Thanks !

These have decent reviews....
Mopar Chrysler BB 383 440 1.5 Stainless Steel Roller Rocker Arm Set w/ Shafts

Mopar Chrysler BB 383 440 1.6 Ratio Stainless Steel Roller Rocker Arm Set Shafts

Mopar Chrysler BB 383 440 Shaft 1.5 Ratio DNA® Aluminum Roller Rocker Arms Set


And these have no reviews....
Mopar Chrysler BB 383 440 1.5 Ratio Aluminum Roller Rocker Arms & Shafts

 

[Turbo440Dart]

Gonna burn the whole budget on rocker arms? What’s wrong with the stock stamped ones?

 

[318willrun]

Gonna burn the whole budget on rocker arms? What’s wrong with the stock stamped ones?

LOL... read two posts up .... (534)

 

[Turbo440Dart]

LOL... read two posts up .... (534)

We’ll burn that bridge when we cross it then. Stick to the stock-ish plan for now.

 

[318willrun]

We’ll burn that bridge when we cross it then. Stick to the stock-ish plan for now.

She'll be "as-is" for the first go-around. We'll develop a plan while she's in there, however, I don't want to miss Speedmaster's 40% off sale (if they do it) if they have something that is good for the build.

 

[Turbo440Dart]

She'll be "as-is" for the first go-around. We'll develop a plan while she's in there, however, I don't want to miss Speedmaster's 40% off sale (if they do it) if they have something that is good for the build.

I’ve never used speed master stuff, but I’ve also never heard of anything “good” from them. Hopefully others will have some firsthand experience for you.

 

[fishmens67]

Anyone with any experience with the speedmaster rockers for BB's ??

Tony (aarcuda) used the stainless on one of his small block engines, said they worked great.
He had photo's comparing the PRW and speedmaster arms, they looked identical in the pics and according to him (in his hand). pics and his experience is somewhere in the archives.
I'm using the PRW arms on one of my big blocks, so far so good. Had to correct the geometry as the underside of the arm was too close to the spring retainer.

 

[318willrun]

Tony (aarcuda) used the stainless on one of his small block engines, said they worked great.
He had photo's comparing the PRW and speedmaster arms, they looked identical in the pics and according to him (in his hand). pics and his experience is somewhere in the archives.
I'm using the PRW arms on one of my big blocks, so far so good. Had to correct the geometry as the underside of the arm was too close to the spring retainer.

Thanks for the feedback!!

 

[318willrun]

I’ve never used speed master stuff, but I’ve also never heard of anything “good” from them. Hopefully others will have some firsthand experience for you.

I've used their small block intakes and heads. I give what I've used two thumbs up! No issues whatsoever.

 

[MOPARMAGA]

I have a great idea. Build a magnum block with 440 guts lol

 

[318willrun]

I have a great idea. Build a magnum block with 440 guts lol

time for a gen III hemi ??? With turbos ??? Hellcat motor ???? lol

 

[fishmens67]

time for a gen III hemi ??? With turbos ??? Hellcat motor ???? lol

Why fart around, this with twin turbos.

 

[318willrun]

Why fart around, this with twin turbos.
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[RustyRatRod]

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Nah. If you're gonna do a flathead, do the Landy Flatty.

 

[TT5.9mag]

Why fart around, this with twin turbos.
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Because I can make way more power than that thing. And drive it to church on Sunday.

Edited:
I misunderstood. That WITH twin turbos. There ya go.

 

[33IMP]

Going to make this more visible,, in it's own thread.

Anyone with any experience with the speedmaster rockers for BB's ??? Ones to avoid... ones that work... Thinking of Black Friday sale....
Thanks !

These have decent reviews....
Mopar Chrysler BB 383 440 1.5 Stainless Steel Roller Rocker Arm Set w/ Shafts

Mopar Chrysler BB 383 440 1.6 Ratio Stainless Steel Roller Rocker Arm Set Shafts

Mopar Chrysler BB 383 440 Shaft 1.5 Ratio DNA® Aluminum Roller Rocker Arms Set


And these have no reviews....
Mopar Chrysler BB 383 440 1.5 Ratio Aluminum Roller Rocker Arms & Shafts

I have a set of the offset aluminum sm rockers for victor/Victor copy heads. I bought them cheap on a black friday sale. I have NOT done anything with them yet.
I'm gonna use the Victor's on a 522, but I'm planning on a fairly conservative cam, so gonna try the sm rockers. If run into any problems, I'll have to bite the bullet and get the $1200 rockers. If I need to do that, I might as well put a big cam in too.