Determine 2 or 4 Barrel - by just looking at it?

[matthon]

Just from these pics alone, 65 383, is it a 2 or 4 barrel?

 

[toolmanmike]

2 barrel I would guess. Here's a 66 383 4 barrel. The carb can't hide. The air cleaners are different as well.

 

[BullyDodge]

I would remove the filter to to be sure. Some two barrals had air cleaner mounting the same size as four barrles. Or a side view of the carb should tell you. It will be wider front to back.

 

[Super-Cuda]

With the limited info provided.

My guess....

383 2 Barrel . Single snorkle air cleaner and the position of the visible carb linkage.


Here's a 1965 4 barrel setup I found.

 

[318willrun]

Are we sure it's a 383 and not a 361?? I'm 99.9% sure that's a 2bbl

 

[toolmanmike]

Are we sure it's a 383 and not a 361??

It could be.

 

[Professor Fate]

2 bbl.
You can tell by the throttle return spring bracket.
And I think that 4 bbl. pic above has '67 valve covers on it.

 

[RustyRatRod]

I agree with @toolmanmike. That's likely a two barrel. You can usually see more carburetor when it's a foe barrah.

 

[matthon]

Are we sure it's a 383 and not a 361?

65 Polara, base bb was a 383.

2 bbl.
You can tell by the throttle return spring bracket.

I thought there might be a giveaway item.

I thought the air cleaner was the same, 2 or 4, in the c-body, in 65 anyway.

My understanding is 65 went from flat top 10.1 for both 2 and 4 barrel, to dished 9.2 for 2 barrel.

Discovered the 65 c-body left engine mount is the same as the 67-68 bb a-body.

 

[qkcuda]

I'm going to say four barrel because the fuel line enters at the passenger side rear. I believe a two barrel would be front center?

 

[Daves69]

Here's a 1965 4 barrel setup I found.

Had that air cleaner on my '66 Sport Fury 383 4bbl.

 

[Vaanth]

Just from these pics alone, 65 383, is it a 2 or 4 barrel?

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The pictured 383, or possibly 361, is two barrel carburetor equipped. Although it is hard to tell fully conclusively from the angles of the pictures, which conveniently hide some other clues, an original four barrel on an original intake manifold in 1965 would be a Carter AFB. The left front mounting for the AFB and the intake mounting area would be visible, unless the angle and the debris in that area is hiding it.

The point about the fuel line toward the rear for an AFB, is good, if it was comparing to a Carter BBD 1-1/2 two barrel which has the fuel line entering the front. However, the 1965 383 and 361 original two barrel carburetors were Stromberg WWC models, which has the fuel line entering on the right side, albeit a little more toward the front compared to an AFB.

The 1965 C-body air cleaner for non-California two barrel and four barrel 383 engines was the same. Also the same for the 1965 non-California 413 four barrel, including Imperial, as well as the 361 two barrel in B-bodies.

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[CFD244]

The pictured 383, or possibly 361, is two barrel carburetor equipped. Although it is hard to tell conclusively form the angles of the pictures, which conveniently hide some other clues, an original four barrel on an original intake manifold in 1965 would be a Carter AFB. The left front mounting for the AFB and the intake mounting area would be visible, unless the angle and the debris in that area is hiding it.

The point about the fuel line toward the rear for an AFB, is good, if it was comparing to a Carter BBD 1-1/4 two barrel which has the fuel line entering the front. However, the 1965 383 and 361 original two barrel carburetors were Stromberg WWC models, which has the fuel line entering on the right side,albeit a little more toward the front compared to an AFB.

The 1965 C-body air cleaner for non-California two barrel and four barrel 383 engines was the same. Also the same for the 1965 non-California 413 four barrel, including Imperial, as well as the 361 two barrel in B-bodies.

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Made me think of this @Vaanth

 

[Dana67Dart]

Discovered the 65 c-body left engine mount is the same as the 67-68 bb a-body.

yep and save the insulator 4 bolters are few and far between

 

[matthon]

I'm going to say four barrel because the fuel line enters at the passenger side rear. I believe a two barrel would be front center?

Searching the interweb I found pics of 2 barrels with the fuel line in front and on the side.
4 barrel appears to go back farther on the side.

Also, it appears 65 was a 1 year only c-body in a number of ways, subframe, engine mounts, air cleaner, etc.

However, the 1965 383 and 361 original two barrel carburetors were Stromberg WWC models, which has the fuel line entering on the right side, albeit a little more toward the front compared to an AFB.

Just typing that out above.

The 1965 C-body air cleaner for non-California two barrel and four barrel 383 engines was the same.

Was thinking this.

The pictured 383, or possibly 361, is two barrel carburetor equipped.

383 was the base bb in the 65 Polara c-body.

I think it's a 2 barrel, didn't really care when I took the pics, then got curious when it wasn't obvious.

 

[Dana67Dart]

Is the engine in your possession now???

You going BB!

I got a 66 383 from a 66 Fury II and 727 from same. I changed all the front accessory drive parts to be 67 up versions (its going in a 67 Dart GTS clone) easier to get the right parts when it is all from the same year.

 

[RustyRatRod]

Made me think of this @Vaanth

Yeah but he ain't nowhere near as hot as she is.