Don't Laugh at Military Graves

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So when someone visits Arlington, they're not allowed to talk or laugh?
This past spring when I visited my father's grave (WWII vet Africa, Sicily, Italy) with my sister, we talked and laughed. Just as he would have wanted it.
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My fathers grave is also at Arlington National. Retired Major Army Air Corp/ Air Force Vet. that retired from active duty in 1968 flew on 19 B-17 missions and was also in North Africa, Sicily and Italy with 93rd bomb group. Served as flight trainer in Korean Conflict. If I was their during that little outburst someone would have been on the ground getting his *** kicked and that would be on you-tube instead.

Oldschoolcuda
 
Oldschoolcuda said:
If I was their during that little outburst someone would have been on the ground getting his *** kicked and that would be on you-tube instead.

Oldschoolcuda
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You of course realize this action would be just as disrespectful.

Unfortunately there will always be people like this. It's probably more prevalent now because it's a PC world and you don't want to offend anyone or step on their rights. I served so folks could have the freedom to behave poorly if they choose. Hell, look at the "role models" during the National Anthem at the Super Bowl. Sure, most remembered how to behave, but there were a few overpaid squirrels shucking and jiving. People just don't have a concept of honor or bearing anymore.
 
You of course realize this action would be just as disrespectful.
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And of course you are? That is what my pop would have wanted and I would feel obligated to do such as retired Air force myself. Disrespecting the deceased veterans of this fine country requires immediate action by code of honor. Obliging would have been second nature. Him cheering in the heavens as they drag me away brings a tear to my eye.

Oldschoolcuda
 
Here here, USN (sw) 8 yrs as a e-6 then usaf Msgt, 25 yrs service. Wife one that put up with it!
 
I am a firm believer in that. Enjoy your freedom if you did not serve. Love to meet yaw! PM me!
 
Oldschoolcuda said:
And of course you are? That is what my pop would have wanted and I would feel obligated to do such as retired Air force myself. Disrespecting the deceased veterans of this fine country requires immediate action by code of honor. Obliging would have been second nature. Him cheering in the heavens as they drag me away brings a tear to my eye.

Oldschoolcuda
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To further disrupt the Old Guard in the performance of their duty by stomping someone's butt on the spot would be wrong and lacks bearing.
Quietly and quickly remove the dirtbag from the A.O. and then stomp their ***.
 
In 1976, While stationed at Avaion AB, Italy, traveling in Europe on vacation...we stopped at the Henri-Chapelle American Cemetery in Belgium on our way to Bastonge....Pretty hard to keep your eyes from not watering up....
 
Now I have never served not have I ever had to shoot somebody or watch someone die other than my grandfather as I sat by his bed in the hospital but I do know this, this men and women who serve our country both those known and unknown r to be respected for wat they do for us and for the sacrifices they make to keep us free, anybody who doesn't agree with me I'd like to introduce them to my darts front bumper.

For example the movie line survivor, my father knew multiple people in the actual mission (don't ask me how I do know I'm just not willing to speak the specifics) that never made it home. I went to go see it with him and on the way home he had to pull over cause he started to cry, now this is a man that has never ever cried in front of anyone not even in physical pain. He cried because he had so much respect for those guys and he has so much respect for our armed services that it isn't funny as does MOST of my family, the reason I say most is cause my two cousins Micah and jeully r full blown democrats who hate the military and guns and our old cars etc etc well the following day after seeing the movie my dad was still kinda mopey cause of the movie and those two showed up for a little family get together for my aunts birthday and when Micah asked about my dad and why he was all mopey my mom told him about the movie and how it really upsetted him , Micah decided to open his big f%^~*ng mouth and say how those men had no right to be in that country in the first place and I tell u wat according to my dad I snapped so fast and so hard that it scared the **** outta him and frankly everyone else cause I dragged his *** out of the house into the driveway and proceeded to kick the shot outta this liberal and I kinda busted the fiberglass fender on my old dart in the process . Needless to say Micah never comes around anymore and his mom and dad and wife despise me now which is a win for me cause they all get on my nerves


Sorry for the long post just seemed like the right time to ahare

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Thank you for sharing, a very moving personal story. On a side note and meant as a compliment kudos to you writing one of the longest sentences I've read in a long time!
 
Honor guard done his assigned duty with respect and class to the offenders.Good gob soldier.
 
We live in a time when there is little respect for the sacrifice others have made. In fact there is little respect for life and death as a whole.
And when our leaders pull troops out of countries too soon, so chaos erupts, like in much of the Middle east today, disrespect is shown also. To pull troops out to soon, means those that gave the ultimate sacrifice died in vain.
 
Visiting my wifes fathers grave at Randolph afb in SA Texas there was a funeral happening not far from us. I,m telling you,anyone whos a respectful person will have a hard time staying dry eyed during a 21 gun salute.
 
67dart273 said:
this was actually posted on here some time ago. I didn't "look it up" but i believe there are signs requesting people to not only not talk, but to stand (if they are able) at attention as if saluting the flag. During the ceremony. Your are not to lollygag, not to lean sloppily on the railing, and so on.

This changing of the guard is an official military act. It is not a show and it is not light entertainment.

This area is essentially a military installation. I can guarantee you and i mean i can flat guarantee you that whatever you "think" your rights are, that if you, for some reason, are challenged "by the guard" at any military installation, you will toe the line. If you do not do as requested, you will be detained, you will probably be put into civilian police detainment, and at the very least will be escorted by whatever means right off the installation.


And for those of you who think you're young and tough, and think this would be a great time and place to exercise the limits of "your freedoms" in the best traditions of, say, beevus and butthead, my advice would be , "don't."
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i almost got arrested for assault when at a high scool football game i slapped a "tough kid" on the back of his baseball cap for not respecting the flag. He was talking crap and no hand where it should be.
 
pacuda59 said:
So when someone visits Arlington, they're not allowed to talk or laugh?
This past spring when I visited my father's grave (WWII vet Africa, Sicily, Italy) with my sister, we talked and laughed. Just as he would have wanted it.
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Jim, there is a difference. At the Tomb Of The Unknown Soldier, it is supposed to be silent.
 
not born in the US, not even a citizen (legal resident) I don't care where I am or who I am talking to, once they start to play that star spangled banner I rise, took of whatever ball-cap I might have on and shut up

I also have a 3 year old son (who is a US citizen) and whenever he sees someone in fatigues he goes up to them and says " thank you for my service" (still working on getting him to say your service)
I considered teaching him to salute aswell but since neither him nor me ever served I didn't think that was appropriate

I personally would never want to have to serve in this mans army and that alone makes me respect and be grateful to those who are willing to do so that I don't have to.
 
Pretty well said, thank you

This idea of free speech--it is not absolute, and it DOES have some "reasonable" restrictions. I'm sure people have hear the phrase "yelling fire in a crowded theater" This is not just a LITERAL example, it's also a FIGURATIVE example. What that means is, there are some places that "it's just not appropriate."

Now, if we can just figure a way to stop those dammned "Westboro Babtist" a-holes. I'm really surprised they have not inflamed someone to serious assault or murder.
 
67Dart273 said:
Now, if we can just figure a way to stop those dammned "Westboro Babtist" a-holes. I'm really surprised they have not inflamed someone to serious assault or murder.
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as a member of a Baptist church i would like to point out this is way out of line and no where near what the bible teaches
wetter on not God has a hand in the underlying causes of the conflict the soldier died in is just not relevant
these guys need to read John 15:13 and shut up
 
Freedom is precious and at times difficult to understand and accept. Freedom means there are times when we will hear things that hurt our feelings and test our sensibilities, but the speaker must have the right to say them.
When I visit a military cemetery or place of honor dedicated to the young men and women who lost their lives in service, I can barely control my intense sorrow, and the last thing I can think of doing is to laugh. If I hear someone laughing, it only tells me that they are a self-indulging idiot and I would have no reluctance to inform them of that fact. The honor guard did exactly that, and did it in a way that I’m certain anyone who was there, or who has seen this video, will remember forever. If the fallen soldier’s family chooses to laugh over his grave, they certainly have the right to do so, but they have the obligation of decency to do so in private or to understand the ire of others if they choose to act the fool.
As for the self-proclaimed Christians who celebrate the death of soldiers, well, the entire world knows they are misdirected idiots, but in a free society they too must have the right to express their stupidity. There are so few of them and they mean nothing to society. Their demonstrations will not convince anyone with compassion or common sense to join their church, and their god will deal with them. Where we go wrong is by giving them the status of acknowledgment rather than the indifference they deserve.
 
pacuda59 said:
So when someone visits Arlington, they're not allowed to talk or laugh?
This past spring when I visited my father's grave (WWII vet Africa, Sicily, Italy) with my sister, we talked and laughed. Just as he would have wanted it.
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???Africa, Sicily, Italy,???

Oh please do enlighten Me on this ... Simple observation ...

"my father's grave " ?? no caps on my fathers grave ???

c.d.a.m. tripe me thinks .
 
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