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Early Abody 4 Speeds!!
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vntned
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I'm currently working on my 4spd...
ddartdude
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Was wondering what Ram Clutch set are you using in your car. It's hard finding numbers for early Darts with the 9.5 or 10.0 clutches. I contacted Clutch Master up in Detroit and they said that I should use a steel back carbon kevlar clutch since I'm running a 380+HP -- 360 Mopar crate engine and a small clutch. What are your thoughts?
If that's the engine I heard in the video a day ago Yes you need a HD clutch. Either a multi disc or a modified 10" unit. When I took my Brewers 10" unit to Clutchmasters the guy checked it out and said it was good to 250+ horse. He said he could juice it up for any level I needed. You're on the right track!
ddartdude
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Mike,
It's not for that car. It's for the other D/Dart. It's got a 380HP - 360 Mopar crate engine in it with a 9.5 clutch setup. All I know about it is that it is a b&b pressure plate made in Mexico and a disc that was made in Korea. It looks to be new but it was installed 2005 and never driven.
The red and white car has a 10.5 in it. Also, an old Lakewood scatter shield. And to top if off, it's got an aluminum case hemi 4-speed in it. I think that might have been an old Mopar Missile cast off part. As far as the clutch setup goes, I have no idea who the mfg is or what disc type is in it.
Alan
ddartdude
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Here's a shot of my early A-Body 4-speed. It's out of the D/Dart. Needed to be resealed. It sat for at least 12 years.
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vntned
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Sorry for the late response guys. Here's a link to the clutch I installed in my dart. I'm running a 360 with the bigger bell, flywheel and 10.5" clutch...
RAM HDX Clutch Kits 88766HDX
RAM HDX Clutch Kits 88766HDX
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ddartdude
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Thanks for the info. I just sent my 10" clutch assembly off to Detroit Clutch masters to have them check it out. They are going to check my pressure plate out and make me a steel backed, carbon kevlar disc for the D/Dart. It has the 380HP - 360 crate engine in it. They said it has 30% more clamping power.
Wasn't sure if the Brewer clutch would hold up to it.
ddartdude
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This is one on my 4-speed cars. It's the first D/Dart built and shipped by Chrysler. It currently has the original engine in it (including carb, spacer, air filter ***'y and original Doug's headers), an aluminum case hemi 4-speed, Lakewood scatter shield, superstock springs, 5.30 gears and spool, 10 quart oil pan, 1960's SW electric fuel pump, and 374 miles on the odometer.
So cool.
ddartdude
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Had this 1964 Valiant 200 back in the late 80's I really miss it. I walked away from a deal on a WO23 and bought this instead. It was originally a /6 - 4-speed car but one of the previous owners put in an early 273 - 2-barrel engine in it. He also put in a 63 B-body rear end with 2.76 gears in it plus front disc brakes in the front. I installed a D4B, Carter carb, hipo 273 dress up parts. It was a great highway car.
Capt46
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My 4 speed with Air conditioning
vntned
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Got my beater back on the road afer a trans refresh and new clutch! The Ram HDX is a touch heavy, but definitely liveable! Hopefully after break in it'll grab good and I can take the old heap to the track and see what this low buck 360 will do!
chryslerfat
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Mine are the one day I am going to fix that car.
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ddartdude
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Here is a brand new 1966 D/Dart that was being prepped for racing. It's the Porach Dodge City car that was out of Cleveland, Ohio, and raced by Wayne Schultz. It still has all the window build stickers on it. I was trying to find out if the cars were shipped with a Hurst shifter in the trunk along with the Dougs Headers.
Thanks for the history lesson. I need to save that photo to my d dart file.
What is a ball and trunnion A body transmission worth? I have a 65 Valiant convertible and I haven't decided if I'll use the 4 speed or a 904. The trans is good, has the rods, levers and 2 shifter assemblies. I've sold traditional slip yoke 833s but wasn't sure if the older versions were worth more or less. Thanks.
ddartdude
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Whenever I think of D/Darts and the Inland shifter, I think of this picture. On the D/Dart website, there are a few more shots of the car taken at the same time.
I have one of those too for my 64 Valiant. Currently it's 3 on the tree. I don't think its worth more than a more common slip yoke 833 but the advantage to me is that it will bolt right in place of the 3 speed and use the same driveshaft. (Excluding the addition of a floor hump)
Also don't forget that these ball snd trunnion trannies have the low 3.09 first gear.
Small world! I recently found the invoice for the 63 Dodge my parents bought there. I remember going there when my dad picked it up. Pretty sure he traded in the 55 Plymouth wagon.
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