plymth70
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I drive a 4 speed. Can only work with 4 strings
Electric guitar...
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Dartswinger70
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I just picked up a used Gibson Les Paul Futura its a studio model from 2014. I like it.
Dartswinger70
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Agree I have a Squier Tele and I have a Fender Tele the Fender is way superior it is more in the feel than how it looks, its the things you dont see at first glance.
jeff alder
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Dartswinger70
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A good bass player is in high demand these days in most local scenes.
diymirage
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I always figured a bass player is second to leat important to a band, only after the singer
Don't ever, ever, EVER get a guy who doesn't play any instrument to sing in your band
Ever
jeff alder
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yes you might end up with a Robert Plant, Rob Halford, Ronnie James Dio, Ozzy Osbourne, Bon Scott, Klaus Meine or maybe even an Anne Wilson...nobody would want that...LOL
Bass is the bridge between the drums and guitar, both of which can be either ahead of or behind the actual "beat" at any given time.
If the bass is not tight with the guitar, something seems "off".
If the bass is not tight (and I mean TIGHT) with the drums, you've got much bigger problems.
Finding a good drummer that's "on the beat" and knows when and how much deviation is warranted and/or acceptable is not easy.
Finding a good bass player that can do both of the above is not easy either.
Being a rhythm guitar player, I get the bass thing.
"Guitar 2" needs to be the bridge between the bass and the lead.
Done right, the total sound is exponentially larger and more full.
If the bass is not tight with the guitar, something seems "off".
If the bass is not tight (and I mean TIGHT) with the drums, you've got much bigger problems.
Finding a good drummer that's "on the beat" and knows when and how much deviation is warranted and/or acceptable is not easy.
Finding a good bass player that can do both of the above is not easy either.
Being a rhythm guitar player, I get the bass thing.
"Guitar 2" needs to be the bridge between the bass and the lead.
Done right, the total sound is exponentially larger and more full.
Very well explained. We had a drummer at church last Sunday that wasn't in the pocket but was behind all the time. The whole thing sounded unrehearsed.
jeff alder
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Playing bass and driving 4 speed is similar. Need to feel it, be in sync with it, and stay under the radar.
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diymirage
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Lessee, Plant knows how to play guitar, so he doesn't count, Halford is a pervert so I wouldn't want him around, period, Dip was actually a bassist (again, my point is you want a musician), Scott started out as a drummer, Wilson plays guitar, so that just leaves ozzie and Klaus
So that leaves the question, how are they to work with ?
It has been my experience that every single singer who isn't a musician has been more hassle then they are worth
My "good" 1987 band had two alternate singers, a fat guy (who could do Halford) and a girl (with a 2.5 octave range [Ann Wilson has 4, so not too shabby for amateurs]).
Neither were musicians, but both were easy to work with.
Musicians (and any "talent", really) in general tend to have larger than normal egos, and are often at least somewhat difficult to work with.
Of course the other side of that coin potentially makes them good showmen.
Neither were musicians, but both were easy to work with.
Musicians (and any "talent", really) in general tend to have larger than normal egos, and are often at least somewhat difficult to work with.
Of course the other side of that coin potentially makes them good showmen.
jeff alder
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and thousands of others...But I do get your point. If I wanted a bass player would I pick Christopher Squire...Maybe... But probably Geddy Lee and definitely Glenn Hughes for their vocals. Just as I might grab Tina Sektic for my lead guitarist but probably Pat Travers for a lead guitarist or Frank Marino for their vocal ability not to mention the likes of Tommy Bolin. Pure vocalists are just that. They work on vocals with no distractions from instruments. There are plenty of musicians that suck hind tit to lead singers because the musician is an asshole.
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jeff alder
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Pat Travers...lead singer, keyboards and guitarist with David Pastorius and Glenn Hughes bass and backup vocals.
rmchrgr
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This sounds like those who-is-the-best-guitarist debates we’d have in middle school.
It never matters to me if someone has x-amount of musical talent. If I like what they do that’s enough. Passion is what grabs me, not say how many notes you can fit in a phrase or how complex a melody or rhythm can be.
Maybe in other genres it matters more but when it comes to rock’n’roll, high-level musicianship does not necessarily translate into good music.
It never matters to me if someone has x-amount of musical talent. If I like what they do that’s enough. Passion is what grabs me, not say how many notes you can fit in a phrase or how complex a melody or rhythm can be.
Maybe in other genres it matters more but when it comes to rock’n’roll, high-level musicianship does not necessarily translate into good music.
diymirage
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I resemble that remark. Been singing in rock and roll bands since I was 16, never played an instrument. Got paid pretty well too, played with LOTS of fantastic musicians.
OK, so I've OWNED a lot of classic guitars, and finally learned to play well enough to pull off a gig. Took YEARS.
diymirage
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i heard a statistic that it takes 10000 hours to master a skill
i dont know about you, but i dont have that much time left
MechNerd
I can fix stupid, but it's gonna hurt...
Me neither. Just gotta do the best I can. For my enjoyment only.
jeff alder
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Watseka Illinois Native James "Waldo" Welsh with a little EAGLES guitar solo. Last I heard from Jim he was an animatronics mechanic at Disney in Florida. The Stratocaster copy on the wall was made by Jim when we were early teens.
An acoustic/ electric 12 string for less than $200?
Nice work. Love the split screen duet at the end.
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