Gas spills when refueling

[dr dodge]

since we are talking fuel tanks and systems, I have some questions.
first, I need a simple removable fuel tank while I am fabin' on the rear.
need to move the car, and
I want to sort the brakes /electrical /cooling before buying and installing a new tank.

any safe cheap options? 2-3 gal is plenty

second, clueless on the replacement tanks

mine is a 72 w/ charcoal, how hard to go simple vented?
and what is the config of the replacement tanks?
do they all fit the floor the same?
will have to run all new lines anyway but would love to ditch the canister
(it's ugly...lol)

 

[slantsixdan]

My 62 Valiant definitely has a horizontal run, literally.

My 67 Barracuda, I wouldn't consider it horizontal, it should have enough liquid gas in it, especially when I fill it slow, but same result each time.

Scroll back up through this thread, find the info on restrictor plates, buy and add one, and drive happy.

 

[RustyRatRod]

Scroll back up through this thread, find the info on restrictor plates, buy and add one, and drive happy.

I'd love to try one. Are you 100% SURE that will fit into an early A body filler tube hole? The actual entrance hole is a good bit smaller than 2". What do you do? Kinda go in sideways and then straighten it out?

 

[Professor Fate]

Doesn't solve the issue, but this is how the Aussies handled it.

At least it keeps the fuel off the paint.

 

[dadsbee]

What do you do? Kinda go in sideways and then straighten it out?

Works for me most nights...

 

[RustyRatRod]

Works for me most nights...

I knew that was comin. lol

 

[mopar head]

Doesn't solve the issue, but this is how the Aussies handled it.
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At least it keeps the fuel off the paint.

I was going to mention to build a removable scupper.

 

[slantsixdan]

I'd love to try one. Are you 100% SURE that will fit into an early A body filler tube hole?

Here y'go.

 

[dhowlan]

I found this website regarding a restrictor, is this it?

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I have this installed in my 64 Valiant. It helped more than anything else. It still spits at the end (California pumps), but far less than previously.

I had gone to the point of installing a Neon filler neck at one point. Unfortunately the automatic shutoff constantly kicked in and filling was a painfully slow affair so it defeated its own purpose.

 

[matthon]

I have this installed in my 64 Valiant. It helped more than anything else. It still spits at the end (California pumps), but far less than previously.

What's different on a CA pump?

I think I'd rather try a grommet first, possibly with some holes drilled in it, that doesn't solve the problem, before I jam a piece of serrated metal down it, that may or may not work.

 

[dhowlan]

I only have experience with California pumps. YMMV

 

[65barracudaLA]

Wrapping a shop rag around the nozzle works. I keep it in a zip lock bag in the trunk.

 

[junkyardhero]

What's different on a CA pump?

our wizard vapor recovery sleeves are different than all y'alls

 

[Dana67Dart]

our wizard vapor recovery sleeves are different than all y'alls

are they the bellows type?

most that I have seen in Colorado are like this, just a cover

 

[junkyardhero]

are they the bellows type?

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yes, correct. they are the bellows design.

 

[Dana67Dart]

I think these are designed for the pump filler to be permanently attached BUT maybe the temporary use of one might help?

https://www.amazon.com/podafu-Gun-V...sing-Station-2Pcs/dp/B0DF6FCJ7V?tag=fabo03-20

 

[Dana67Dart]

yes, correct. they are the bellows design.

I was just doing some reading and it looks like the vapor recover pump nozzles are going away in many areas. Since 1998 vehicles under 10,000 GVW are required to have a filling vapor recovery system on the car making the station vapor recovery system redundant and sometimes an issue. It said the decision to eliminate the requirement was a state by state decision.

 

[MidnightBlueSwinger]

I have this installed in my 64 Valiant. It helped more than anything else. It still spits at the end (California pumps), but far less than previously.

I had gone to the point of installing a Neon filler neck at one point. Unfortunately the automatic shutoff constantly kicked in and filling was a painfully slow affair so it defeated its own purpose.

Looking at the outer edges of the restrictor, after installed, could you seal the open edges with a fuel resistant sealer like JB WELD to reduce the gas puke?

 

[Professor Fate]

Looking at the outer edges of the restrictor, after installed, could you seal the open edges with a fuel resistant sealer like JB WELD to reduce the gas puke?

I wouldn't- you still need to allow airflow out of the tank as you fill.

 

[MV8]

A vent that goes past the restrictor is another path to spit when the level comes up to the restrictor in the filler and vent. I've never seen any oem restrictor type filler that didn't put the filler vent between the restrictor and the tank. When they do have 1/8 holes, it is usually because there is a pocket where fuel would get caught outboard of the restrictor that needs a drain.

Another filler option is to make the ring/restrictor (1-5/8" od, 7/8" id for 13/16" nozzle clearance), then at a distance that ensures the nozzle tip side hole will be clear to suck air from the tank vent passage, cut a slot half way through in the top of the filler tube, insert the ring (which would block the vent passage as-is), drill three 1/4" holes down through the vent wall just behind the ring toward the tank end, then weld up the slot (securing the ring) and three 1/4" holes. It would look original except for the welding on the tube.

 

[str12-340]

I used on of DamRaider's adapters to put a flip top cap on my Dart. One unexpected benefit is a chrome plated rim around the filler opening that is deeper than the sheet metal recess in the quarter, making a fuel proof entry with more effective area for paper towels when I fuel. Not 100%, but much better.