How I solved my droning problem..

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serodgers66

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I recently replaced my two piece headers with a stock manifold on the driver's side and a 90's magnum manifold on the passengers side. The headers rattled and leaked constantly and were a little too loud for my tastes. The unintended consequence was that I picked up a very pronounced drone when stopped at a light with rpm's between 750 and 1000. Like unbearably uncomfortable. Not necessary loud but it was like sitting inside a bass drum. I took it to a transmission shop thinking it may be my torque converter but everything checked out ok. So I chalked it up to a harmonic frequency issue. The exhaust is a 2.25" X exhaust that feeds into two Dynomax Turbo Mufflers that exit right before the rear axle. Before I sunk unneccesary $$$ trying to resolve the drone, I decided to pick up two Thrush Welded mufflers at the local parts store. I installed them and no change...actually, a little worse. I was in the middle of changing back to the turbos when I thought, "I wonder what it sounds like with one of each? Will the difference in backpressure solve the drone?" So I only swapped one Thrush for a turbo and took it for a spin. To my surprise, the drone was reduced considerably!! Not completely gone, but enough of an improvement that I can enjoy driving the car again. Just thought I'd share in case someone is battling something similar....

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I don't remember what they are called, but some modern systems, and I think some of the Mustangs used them, are dead end tuning stubs. These are specific lengths of pipe, resembling a cutout or something, that are sealed on the end. Science, and all that.

Here we go:
Helmholtz exhaust resonators

Helmholtz resonance - Wikipedia

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you changed the resonance on one side and it interfered with the resonance on the other and reduced the drone. you had 2 Church organ pipes... in full song at one rpm, now you don't

bore and pipe length play a part so id guess with 2 similar mufflers their drones combined into a super drone.... at a specific rpm

now when one comes on-song it disrupts the other....= way less drone
 
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Surprisingly Pontiac did both things mentioned above on the '67-'69 GTO's with automatics. They used a 2" shorter muffler on the passenger side and in '68 they added a Helmholtz resonator in the tailpipe too. Ford used the same muffler approach on the earlier 5.0 Mustangs.

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Found this video. This guy's explanation makes sense. They seem to operate exactly like a 1/4 wave rf stub, such as used in TV coax to eliminate a specific interfering signal

 
Bear in mind, Rusty, that there are production cars that have used this. I can't name them all because the only way to find out is accidental, someone talking about it, or being "under" them and noticing. At my age, LOL I don't do that much anymore. Besides, all this new stuff is way too close to the ground.

A very quick search says Viper and V10 Rams. That 96 that I junked did not.

BMW's use them in the INTAKE

Someone claims they saw one on a Renault LeCar (pronounced ugLE CAR) LOL

https://media.ford.com/content/ford...-ford-engineers-tackled-the-dreaded-wind.html
 
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Helmholtz resonators would be tough on an A body. Not much real estate JMO
LOL you could always run them up into the body, like one racer I saw did with the air intake ducting. I've always wondered how that might go if the turbo blew up the intake duct!!!
 

I too had an annoyingly loud drone (around 35 mph) for years inside of my Duster with my old Flowmaster mufflers. I eventually swapped them out for some stainless Borla Pro XS mufflers. Not much improvement. Then I added some "resonators" at the exhaust tips. Still no improvement. Finally, I added some homemade closed tube/chambers as described above by others, onto the tail pipes. The drone disappeared completely. I used some 3" tubing and made them as long as I could fit above the leaf springs. That was 5 years ago. I am beginning to suspect that the typical big quiet passenger car mufflers that we always removed as kids use some of that extra space inside for similar noise cancellation physics.

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"exit right before the rear axle" but how? Turned out? Turned down? Also, where are the mufflers in your system?
 
I think his mufflers are in stock location and tips are on inside along the frame rails . I pic from the back would be nice.
 
Bear in mind, Rusty, that there are production cars that have used this. I can't name them all because the only way to find out is accidental, someone talking about it, or being "under" them and noticing. At my age, LOL I don't do that much anymore. Besides, all this new stuff is way too close to the ground.

A very quick search says Viper and V10 Rams. That 96 that I junked did not.

BMW's use them in the INTAKE

Someone claims they saw one on a Renault LeCar (pronounced ugLE CAR) LOL

https://media.ford.com/content/ford...-ford-engineers-tackled-the-dreaded-wind.html
TONS of cars have Helmholz resonators in the intakes. Buell motorcycles had them on intakes and exhausts, too
There is a lot of droning in my car. I have traced the source to my wife. Anyone have a fix for that?
If you can't figure out what to stick in her mouth when she opens it...

One of the best sounding cars I ever heard was my friend Eric's Fifth Ave. He put a header on the driver's side, stock manifold on the passenger side, stock muffler on the header side, and turbo muffler on the manifold side. It sounded like Arnold Schwarzenegger in a tuxedo.
 
Surprisingly Pontiac did both things mentioned above on the '67-'69 GTO's with automatics. They used a 2" shorter muffler on the passenger side and in '68 they added a Helmholtz resonator in the tailpipe too. Ford used the same muffler approach on the earlier 5.0 Mustangs.

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Hey! Maybe that explains why the Mustangs are always going sideways and crashing when they break the tires loose. :steering:
 
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