no more wow factor...

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"I am not at liberty to discuss the textbook output of my engine, but if you would care to meet me on a deserted country road about 11:30....."
 
every time i look at my car i say wow

wow thats come along ways
wow ive done a ton of work on it
wow i have spent a lot of money on that

and most important

wow my dad always wanted to do that to that car and i did.

first-i dont care what others think
second- most muscle cars of the 60s-70s from the factory were fast for what they were but not as fast as we remember them as young kids or even adults. there is 40 plus years of technology behind these newer cars/trucks.

when i used to drive around in my rusted out 68 chevelle (my first car) everybody looked because even though it was not mean or fast it sounded mean and fast.

Now a days i drive my car ( that i have put much money and time into) and young kids dont even look when the dual exhaust sounds off which sometimes makes me shake my head and wonder. But then i stop at the gas station and im there for 45 minutes because everybody wants to talk about the car so i forget all about the young kids that did not look.
 
My son is President of the car club at Kettering. He is the person that does all the auto-crosses. The STUDENTS show up in Corvets Camaros Mustangs Evos Cobalt SS race spec Neons and they all kick my ***. But they all love my car and tell me it is the baddest sounding car on the track.
 
but in the mid 70s i dont rem looking at a 1930 model A like i do now or like i looked at a 65 impala or 73 challenger then
 
Our cars have what there cars will never have...character! Around here, a classic car, no matter how fast or slow, will turn more heads than a ricer. And if someone would prefer to check out a ricer than my car, then I don't want them looking at my car! It is a shame tho, that a 400 HP car does not mean the same as it did 20 years ago, but that's technology for u.
 
My youngest daughter grew up with modern machines. She saw a 1974 four door Dart that a friend of mine was selling and I bought it for her (this was after she got to ride in the Duster). It was a 318 car. One day she drove up to me and said "Dad, look what I can do!" and she did a one-legger burnout down the street. I wish I had a video of it and a photo of the smile on her face.

Parenting done right. Lol one day when I have kids I hope they want to do burnouts in old cars.
 
My car goes 314 to the wheels and run mid 11's. I don't play the hp game. I play the come to strip and put your money where your mouth is game. That new 425hp Camaro goes high 12's, low 13's on a well prepped strip with a professional driver at the wheel.

I have a friend who drives a supercharged bird. Makes 525 at the wheels. Runs 12.20's.

I try to end conversation like the ones you have found yourself in quickly, usually by asking a series of questions to make the other person look like a cowardly idiot.

1. What does it run?
2. Do you want to run?

That is usually enough. Usually the answers are no and silence/excuses.
 
I didn't build my 400 hp small block to impress some rich guy. I did it because it's what I wanted and what I could afford. When someone says something about modern muscle in comparison with my car my response is always "oh".
 
ask all those people with modern mustangs/camaros/challengers what all have they done to their car... youd be surprised how few of them have done anything other than a cold air intake.... built not bought always wins in my book whether its a honda or an old muscle car, im always more impressed by the guy to built the car with 300hp over the guy who bought one with 707.
 
WOW ! lots of nice comments here ..as i see im not the only one in that game , yes when i was 13-14 yrs old in 1998-1999 a 400 hp small block was amazing , and as i got older and can bought one and built even 2 with a 400 hp 360s , its even more amazing... my cuda is a nice cruiser with a 4 speed and the duster is the light brutal tricked out 727 with gears ... , show them up , i wanna ear more stories!!!!!
 
ps: with the aggressive cam lobe that i have in my crate i almost have to say that i have 1000 hp because they ve seen to much of vin diesel with is black charger that does willies in the street and drives in the street like nothing .



You do realize that '68 Charger had a lot of help pulling the front wheels? Watch closely the next time you watch that scene. There was a hydraulic arm coming down pushing the front of the car up. It's called "special effects" . And the motor in that Charger was just a mild mannered old 392 Hemi with an underdriven blower on it? It made a lot of noise, that's all. It couldn't pull the skin of rice pudding in reality.

Tell all your ricer friends those F & F shows are fake.

BTW..... I especially like their 10 stage, manually applied, nitrous oxide systems in those F&F shows. ...cracks me up every time.:D

Now, don't worry about what other kids say or don't say about your rides, enjoy them for what they are.....

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Not only that it was smoking the tires at the same time..you can't do that always thought that movie was a "joke"..
 
WOW ! lots of nice comments here ..as i see im not the only one in that game , yes when i was 13-14 yrs old in 1998-1999 a 400 hp small block was amazing , and as i got older and can bought one and built even 2 with a 400 hp 360s , its even more amazing... my cuda is a nice cruiser with a 4 speed and the duster is the light brutal tricked out 727 with gears ... , show them up , i wanna ear more stories!!!!!

Don't you have like 125k wrapped up in those two cars ?? i would love to hear more on ur builds and see more pics of ur cars.

link to my build is down below
 
Tell them import guys that you'll run N/A to N/A and see what they say. Tell them to forgo their nitrous and turbos. Then tell them there's more to racing than meets the eye and the wow factor is a big part of it. Tell them you'll prove it by going to the drag strip with them. Just to watch. First off, watch how they get their own class. There's only one reason they get their own class in bracket racing. It's for the second thing to watch. Watch how when their class comes up everyone in the stands gets up to go to the bathroom and get refreshments.
 
My cuda cost me more than 100k in the last 13 years , and the duster is around 25-30 in the last 7 years , the cuda was a ex-car-show competitor , we won a lots of trophies but now its a cruiser , i retired from the car shows !

 
My cuda cost me more than 100k in the last 13 years , and the duster is around 25-30 in the last 7 years , the cuda was a ex-car-show competitor , we won a lots of trophies but now its a cruiser , i retired from the car shows !



very nice and i just watched ur video. i love Montreal an have spent quite a bit of time there and its not to awful far away. Maybe i will see ur car in person sometime the near future
 
Some people just dont know what they are looking at... build yourself one of those new hemi's stick a bigol crossram on it ditch the ecm and turn tires into smokewhile holding second(or third traction permitting) while all the H-brand guys haft to sit around with thier #!$= in thier hands bull!%$#ing about thier dyno numbers with some gargantion turbine bolted 2 it. Just my 21yroldhouse honest opinion, but then again, what do i know!?
 
People are getting used to seeing all these videos of ridiculously high horsepower cars on the streets that haven't previously been seen in past years. This makes everybody get used to seeing 1000 or 2000 hp cars so when you say you only have 400 hp, they don't think it's anything. But remember that the closest most people have come to seeing what 400 horsepower really is, is behind their computer screen watching youtube. They don't have a clue. According to online calculators, my car makes around 500 hp. Doesn't sound like all that much but it still runs 10's and that makes me happy. A guy here at work makes right around 800 rwhp (dyno'd) with his newer Camaro and he still hasn't hit 10's with it. Big horsepower don't matter if you can't move the car down the road. Brush off the naysayers. Our cars rock!
 

Very Very true, we all see this 1000hp and 2 or even 3 000 hp car on youtube turbocharged and everything , its insane and a lot of $$$$$ , wow..800hp and doesnt run 10s.. my best friend was doing 11.60 all day with a 360 crate engine .... im speechless !
 
I have co-workers ask me all the time "Why do you drive such an old beat up POS?" "Why don't you buy a new car?" I tell 'em... "Because I like it". Even though it's been hand painted with a brush and roller (before I got her), the floors are rusted out and patched with sheet metal screws, I'm always out there checking the fluids, the valves tick, she doesn't have a headliner or kick panels (yet), the seats ripped and foam missing (for now), and so on, I ENJOY driving her. I wish I had a nickel for everybody that's come up to me at the gas pump or at the store that talked to me with stories of "I had one in high school" or "I always loved those Darts" or a number of other fond memories. She turns heads at every intersection and I get thumbs up or see smiles on their faces. And it doesn't sound like an old man farting in a tin can. I'll choose a rusty "classic" over a new ricer any day, even if it won't burn rubber.
 
I assume people talk junk about me driving my old slow '64 Dart everyday, but I can't seem to hear them. I guess the massive erection I get when I drive my car gets in the way of their sound waves?! Science, or something.
 
I admit, I love the new Challenger but then when I see them a dime a dozen a long with all the Camaros and Mustangs they aren't as appealing to me. Not knocking you guys that have them and may have a classic to go with it, but I'll stick to my dart. Something about all the time and effort I have in the and how sketchy a 40+ old car feels when your flying makes it way more fun.

As for the ricers all I can say is, last summer one pulled up next to me and said they had been trying to catch up with me for miles, to see if I wanted to race?? I told them " if you couldn't catch me, I don't think it would be much of race."
 
I assume people talk junk about me driving my old slow '64 Dart everyday, but I can't seem to hear them. I guess the massive erection I get when I drive my car gets in the way of their sound waves?! Science, or something.

I guess the V in the Valiant emblem acts the same as the little blue pill with a V on it. I will remember that.
 
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