Stop in for a cup of coffee

[ProjectBazza]

Yeah, figured

Talks about how they (dealerships) can't get mechanics.

It goes on to talk about how the starting salaries are so low and the requirement for the new mechanic to purchase their own tools, etc. and that it takes maybe 5 years to become proficient.

Seems like there's an answer to that, but what do I know.

Shop costs are relatively fixed....

I don't know anyone who has a kid, or knows a kid, or has even heard of a kid, willing to spend years at a Tech School, only to have to spend $40k (?) on tools, paid for out of his own pocket, only so that he can make "bupkiss" for the first "x" amount of years. I have a friend who used to teach at a local Tech school (this goes back about 10 years or so), and even then he said they were having troubles getting kids to enter their Automotive program.

Which is really sad....

In my industry (commercial HVAC), we have shitty, idiotic, 2nd year Service Techs making $90k/year, and all they have to supply in the way of tools is a tape measure. And some of them can't even do that!

Friggin' world has gone crazy.

 

[pauly]

A quart of primer didn't quite do the job. One more time today to finish. It's fun to paint white on white. Like driving in the fog. You can just barely see the difference in color between the drywall mud and the primer in the first photo.

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Last white paint I rolled on was a ceiling. It was the stuff that had a slight blue tint when it was wet but dried white. That was pretty easy to see where you were at.

 

[WV64Signet]

I don't know anyone who has a kid, or knows a kid, or has even heard of a kid, willing to spend years at a Tech School, only to have to spend $40k (?) on tools, paid for out of his own pocket, only so that he can make "bupkiss" for the first "x" amount of years. I have a friend who used to teach at a local Tech school (this goes back about 10 years or so), and even then he said they were having troubles getting kids to enter their Automotive program.

Which is really sad....

In my industry (commercial HVAC), we have shitty, idiotic, 2nd year Service Techs making $90k/year, and all they have to supply in the way of tools is a tape measure. And some of them can't even do that!

Friggin' world has gone crazy.

Seems to me that if the dealers are bitching then maybe you have a standard set of tools for the newbs, allowing them to pace themselves before giving their soul to the Snap-On/Matco truck gods

As said, shop rates are fairly fixed but the $50k guy and the $120k guy bring in the same hourly rate from customers.

I'd love to get into a seasoned - human (retiree) training program for a part time gig like that.

 

[Frodee]

Thread 'New member' New member

OPPS!

 

[WV64Signet]

OPPS!

Got a chuckle

Sent a screen shot to my Chevelle brother

 

[ProjectBazza]

Seems to me that if the dealers are bitching then maybe you have a standard set of tools for the newbs, allowing them to pace themselves before giving their soul to the Snap-On/Matco truck gods

As said, shop rates are fairly fixed but the $50k guy and the $120k guy bring in the same hourly rate from customers.

I'd love to get into a seasoned - human (retiree) training program for a part time gig like that.

As a wise man once said: Follow the money.

And I, too, would enjoy a P/T gig, but in the Parts Department. Every time I go into NAPA they ask me when I'm coming back (I worked 20+ years for them), but with the way parts are now, and everyone's "price match guarantee", ain't no way in Hell I'd go back behind a Retail counter!

I remember in High School we were told that Employment for Life was going to be a thing of the past. Boy, were they right!

 

[Frodee]

Got a chuckle

Sent a screen shot to my Chevelle brother

I should go on to the A body GM site and post my Mopar just for ***** and giggles.

 

[ProjectBazza]

I should go on to the A body GM site and post my Mopar just for ***** and giggles.

Here be Fred:

 

[Frodee]

Here be Fred:

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Someone has to do it Jim.

 

[DartGT55]

I don't know anyone who has a kid, or knows a kid, or has even heard of a kid, willing to spend years at a Tech School, only to have to spend $40k (?) on tools, paid for out of his own pocket, only so that he can make "bupkiss" for the first "x" amount of years. I have a friend who used to teach at a local Tech school (this goes back about 10 years or so), and even then he said they were having troubles getting kids to enter their Automotive program.

Which is really sad....

In my industry (commercial HVAC), we have shitty, idiotic, 2nd year Service Techs making $90k/year, and all they have to supply in the way of tools is a tape measure. And some of them can't even do that!

Friggin' world has gone crazy.

The same thing in the electrical trade got tired of teaching new kids only to have them quit 8 months down the road so I quit teaching them my secrets as it some of the shortcuts in being faster glad I retired 4 years ago

 

[WV64Signet]

I should go on to the A body GM site and post my Mopar just for ***** and giggles.

NICE NOVA

 

[Frodee]

The same thing in the electrical trade got tired of teaching new kids only to have them quit 8 months down the road so I quit teaching them my secrets as it some of the shortcuts in being faster glad I retired 4 years ago

Tried to teach some new guys in the body shop how to do things and they would just say I learned in school how to do body work and I know what I'm doing. OK don't ask me for anything you're on your own.

 

[WV64Signet]

The same thing in the electrical trade got tired of teaching new kids only to have them quit 8 months down the road so I quit teaching them my secrets as it some of the shortcuts in being faster glad I retired 4 years ago

When I came up on the end of my initial Army enlistment, I looked into getting on with the power company and/or phone company back home. At that time I was running telephone maintenence, outside plant construction and running a telephone pole truck.

Feedback from folks in the business was that unless I had a relative inside the company or union, there was no way to get in.

So it goes

 

[Frodee]

NICE NOVA

That was my first thought to my introduction. I just purchased this 73 Nova.

 

[WV64Signet]

That was my first thought to my introduction. I just purchased this 73 Nova.

Perfect....

LoL

 

[ProjectBazza]

Someone has to do it Jim.

 

[ProjectBazza]

That was my first thought to my introduction. I just purchased this 73 Nova.

And your online name:

Assman!

 

[Frodee]

And your online name:

Assman!

 

[Frodee]

Fixed.

 

[kiwigtx]

. . . . and have a cup of coffee.

 

[Frodee]

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. . . . and have a cup of coffee.

Bus is already in the ditch but go ahead and stir the pot.

 

[WV64Signet]

Bus is already in the ditch but go ahead and stir the pot.

Let's flip it over. Back onto the wheels and go again! It's an Acme brand bus

Like Wile E Coyote

 

[toolmanmike]

You have heard "as much fun as watching paint dry" Well, I'm there. The bathroom priming is done. I even touched up some scratches in the dining room. Garbage emptied, 220 volt plug and wiring removed, light switch rotated so on is up, and changed out the furnace filter. Just a bunch of little things.

 

[Frodee]

You have heard "as much fun as watching paint dry" Well, I'm there. The bathroom priming is done. I even touched up some scratches in the dining room. Garbage emptied, 220 volt plug and wiring removed, light switch rotated so on is up, and changed out the furnace filter. Just a bunch of little things.

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Looks good Mike.

 

[Sublime one]

Seems to me that if the dealers are bitching then maybe you have a standard set of tools for the newbs, allowing them to pace themselves before giving their soul to the Snap-On/Matco truck gods

As said, shop rates are fairly fixed but the $50k guy and the $120k guy bring in the same hourly rate from customers.

I'd love to get into a seasoned - human (retiree) training program for a part time gig like that.

Have I got a deal for you, want to go to Guatemala? Then rotate to Africa. Pay is pretty darn good but there is a bit of risk involved!
Hehehe