The Georgia DNR says......

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RustyRatRod

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That we "don't have big cats" in Georgia.

I just "GUESS" they ain't seen this yet.

That buck was estimated to weigh over 250 pounds. He has been one everybody has been after for a while. The cat won out.
 

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I know. But it was taken around Chipley, Georgia where my buddy hunts on a big tract up there.
 
It is makin the rounds again........and I don't know how the above picture got associated with Chipley, Georgia, but it's wrong. I just called Billy and he said they never got a picture of the cat in Chipley. That picture I posted in the first post was actually taken in Texas. Billy told me to go here and read all about it:

http://www.buckmanager.com/2009/05/21/mountain-lion-really-killed-this-whitetail/

Still pretty dang cool.
 
New York and PA claim the same thing.

Woman in Sayre, PA, right on the border with NY, took a pic of a big cat standing on her back deck. Made the local paper. DEC's from both states tried to make the claim it was an over large house cat.

Standing as large as the patio furniture.

Rrrrriiiiiiggggggghhhhhhhtttttt.

These are the same idiots, whom, for decades, tried to make the claim we didn't have coyotes. That is, until the population got so large they couldn't hide it anymore.
 
My wife and I saw one in south Georgia near Alamo Georgia cross the road at dusk about 20 yrs ago. I called DNR the next day and they said they were not in Georgia. They are in Florida but I guess they honor the Georgia State boundaries.
 
At least some of you are rural. They are quite "popular" in the LA area. Saw a "noose" article some workman found one relaxing in someone's crawlspace under their house he was building.

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My neighbors have told me they have spotted a cat here and there are footprints. I guess people just release these in the wild for us to deal with.
 
the MISSOURI dept of n r for years, decades swore there were no big cats here. few years back they finally ADMITTE they brought them in decagdes back to help control deer population.

they also kill calves, foals, I have seen one 3 times, and neighbors have too. one neighbor saw a black panther couple years back.. ( 4 legged ones).

I saw a black panther is s w GA back bout '75. of course, none there according to DNA. ha! they are in Fa. though, and these cats migrate and travel many miles when they want to.
 
I'm married to a cougar and have seen others out and about.

Jack

we have a few here. need more, had to stop and let the deer cross the road going to church sunday night. (BIG BUCK-BIG RACK) replaced my underground elec. service a few weeks ago, and was one standing out in the street watching me. took pics on my cell phone but haven`t taken time to learn how to post them up. seems to be very time consuming on this P.C.
 
There are black panthers in NC too. Never believed such a thing until I saw one around 96 or 97.
 
It is makin the rounds again........and I don't know how the above picture got associated with Chipley, Georgia, but it's wrong. I just called Billy and he said they never got a picture of the cat in Chipley. That picture I posted in the first post was actually taken in Texas. Billy told me to go here and read all about it:

http://www.buckmanager.com/2009/05/21/mountain-lion-really-killed-this-whitetail/

Still pretty dang cool.

They re-introduced pumas/moutain lions/cougars into Texas, ranchers developed many problems. In other states, hikers & bikers have been attacked.

"Nineteen mountain lions (Felis concolor stanleyana) were released into northern Florida as surrogates for evaluating the feasibility of reintroducing Florida panthers (F. c. coryi) into unoccupied areas of their historic range."

source: [ame]http://www.mountainlion.org/us/fl/FL-A-FGFWFC-Belden-McCown-1996-Florida-Panther-Reintroduction-Feasibility-Study-July-1992-June-1995.pdf[/ame]

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/mountain-lions-on-the-loose/nQKnT/

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srRYJe8C3bQ"]Cougar Killed near West Point, Georgia - YouTube[/ame]

They re-introduced wolves somewhere in the North West, same problems.

" Between 1982 and 1998 a comprehensive captive breeding program brought Mexican wolves back from the brink of extinction. Over 300 captive Mexican wolves were part of the recovery program.

The ultimate goal for these wolves, however, is to reintroduce them to areas of their former range. In March 1998, this reintroduction campaign began with the releasing of three packs into the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest in Arizona, and eleven wolves into the Blue Range Wilderness Area of New Mexico.[1] Today, there may be up to 100 wild Mexican wolves in Arizona and New Mexico. The final goal for Mexican wolf recovery is a wild, self-sustaining population of at least 300 individuals.[2]

Yellowstone National Park and Central Idaho[edit]See also: History of wolves in Yellowstone

Map showing wolf packs in Yellowstone National Park as of 2002.Grey wolf packs were reintroduced to Yellowstone National Park and Idaho starting in 1995." -source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_reintroduction



fisher(?) weasel introduced into/around the great lakes to eat porcupines,
johnson grass in the mid west (from africa, illegal in kansas),
fire ants,

"A number of other fire ants of genus Solenopsis occur in the United States, including the black imported fire ant, Solenopsis richteri. Introduced to the U.S. in 1918, Solenopsis richteri co-occurs with S. invicta within a portion of its non-native distribution in the U.S."

kudzu vine (completely covering trees in the south-from japan, during the depression),...introduced into the environment on purpose.

& Then african rock pythons, anacondas, king cobras, african-rock pythons accidently released into florida,
-snake head fish (?from asia?) aggressive fish wiping out other species through out the US,

extremely poisnous Cane toad wiping out the predators in australia

& of course we all have heard of pirranas being dumped into bodies of water.
The commercial shipping vessels brought us that flying cockroach.

Here the locals have told me (believed/taken with a big chunk of salt) that after hunting at night, they have seen big cats. We get bear size pigs here on the coast, just north of florida.
 
Mountain lions on the loose?
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/mountain-lions-on-the-loose/nQKnT/

The discovery that a cougar killed last year in Troup County came from a population of Florida panthers begs a question that biologists hear all the time:

Are lions loose in Georgia?
State and federal biologists are skeptical. Big cats, they say, vanished from Southeastern forests decades ago, driven out by that encroaching species, Homo sapiens.

But others are convinced that panthers are among us. The big cats, they say, are the blur on the darkened roadway, the rustle in grassy pastures, that soft-walking something in woodland shadows.

That’s what a deer hunter in Troup County saw Nov. 16. (??2008??) He was sitting in a tree stand, waiting for a buck to come by, when something unexpected padded into the clearing: Puma concolor, an American mountain lion. He killed it.

The unnamed hunter, whom officials are not prosecuting for shooting the protected animal, contacted the regional offices of the state Department of Natural Resources in Fort Valley. Biologist Charlie Killmaster remembers the moment.

“I got a page [on the cellphone], ‘Reference cougar, Troup County,’ ” recalled Killmaster. “I thought, ‘Aw, it’s another one of those.’ ”

“Those,” as in erroneous sightings, phoned in by nervous hikers or hunters. Killmaster and every other DNR biologist in the state had taken those calls before. Probably a big dog, Killmaster thought.


‘Not impossible’

But you cannot dispute 140 pounds of furry evidence. What the hunter showed law enforcement officers was a stunning creature — 88 inches from nose to tail, tawny and muscled, about 4 years old, beautiful.

The surprised officers gave the carcass to Killmaster, who took it to the Southeastern Cooperative Wildlife Disease Study in Athens. Veterinarians there performed a necropsy that led to a surprising conclusion, announced last week.

The male panther’s genetic makeup showed it had come from Florida panthers. A subspecies of the American mountain lion, the panthers are endangered and protected by state and federal laws. An estimated 100 to 120 live in South Florida, about 600 miles south of Troup County. “That’s as the crow flies,” said Killmaster.

As the panther walks, it’s closer to 650 miles. To reach the Georgia county, about 75 miles southwest of Atlanta, the panther may have followed river corridors north, looking for terrain he didn’t have to share with other male lions.

Biologists, a skeptical lot, note that lions rarely travel so far — but they can. The record trek for an American cougar, set several years go by a restless youngster out west, is 663 miles.

The Troup County wanderer may have gotten tired of sharing space with his peers and lit out for unknown territory, suggested Paul Souza, a South Florida field supervisor for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

“While it’s unusual for panthers to be seen that far north,” he said, “it is not impossible for a young male to travel so far.”

And perhaps they have traveled farther than that.


‘Know what I saw’

Daylight was an hour away on a late-May morning when Chad Nichols of Braselton drove his ’95 Buick Riviera onto the roadway. The headlights illuminated two lanes reaching into the darkness. Nichols settled in for his commute to Kennesaw, where he supervises sales of sports nutritional supplements.

The creature came from the right. It bounded into the glare of the Buick’s headlights and seemed to kick its rear legs. It was dark brown, long, soon gone with a flick of its tail.

“I know what I saw,” said Nichols, 36. “There is no doubt in my mind.”

A sheep? That’s what he first thought. But sheep aren’t that big.

Dog? Not a chance.

Bobcat? An avid hunter, Nichols knows one when he sees one.

“It was a cat,” he said. “A big cat.”

Word got around. A lady shopping at the nearby BP told Nichols’ neighbor that something had been foraging in her trash — a cat, she suspected. Nichols posted a notice on a Braselton community blog, warning folks that a cougar might be prowling the woods near their homes.

DNR biologist Scott Frazier, who works in the department’s Gainesville regional offices, began getting calls: Something ran across the road; something gutted a horse.

The department set roadside traps; they remained empty. Specialists looked at the dead horse; it appeared to have died, then was ravaged by something — wild dogs, perhaps.

Frazier and others took calls, investigated ... and still are waiting for conclusive proof that a cougar stalks where children play and guys grill off their decks in the hills 50 miles northeast of Atlanta. Paw prints, cat droppings: That would convince him.

People who don’t need convincing note that federal officials in the late 1980s introduced a strain of Texas panthers to the woodlands close to Georgia’s Okefenokee Swamp. The cats adapted well during the experiment, which concluded when officials removed the panthers in the early 1990s.

But did they get them all?

Frazier has been hearing reports about lions and other unlikely creatures since coming to DNR’s Gainesville office four years ago.

Some are even legitimate.

A few years ago, someone called and said they had an alligator in their pond. Frazier, who is trained in these things, investigated and announced: A gator was in the pond.

But a cougar?

“I would say it’s possible,” he said. “But it’s not probable.”
 
Black Panthers are native to Africa not North America! Would be the same as seeing an Elephant.
 
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