Trailer Tire Pressure

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I went to Atco last night. 80 miles each way. There is still a feeling that it will sway excessively if I don't pay attention. It rode well other than that.
I will only use this trailer for shorter jaunts, such as an Atco trip.
Part of the swaying thing is probably the truck. It's a 95 F150, w/ 300 straight 6. 5 spd and 2.73 gears. I dont think the suspension is stiff enough.
The trans has a 3.92 1st gear to help that 2.73. But I think a set of 3.27's would be nice. It doesn't like grades at all.


What about some air bags on the truck? Maybe you have the wrong tires on the truck for towing. Load located properly? Maybe a anti sway hitch would help.
 
What about some air bags on the truck? Maybe you have the wrong tires on the truck for towing. Load located properly? Maybe a anti sway hitch would help.
The load seems to be distributed ok. The truck doesn't squat. It rides fairly level as I loaded it.
I was wondering if the tires need stiffer sidewalls. They are P235/75R 15's.
Goodyear on the back, Hankook on the front. Probably not the ultimate. 7"rims.
I'm sure an anti sway hitch would help. I'm trying to avoid throwing a zillion dollars at it, but I know "safety is first".
 
The load seems to be distributed ok. The truck doesn't squat. It rides fairly level as I loaded it.
I was wondering if the tires need stiffer sidewalls. They are P235/75R 15's.
Goodyear on the back, Hankook on the front. Probably not the ultimate. 7"rims.
I'm sure an anti sway hitch would help. I'm trying to avoid throwing a zillion dollars at it, but I know "safety is first".
Good on the level of the truck.

Grab the back quarter of the truck without the trailer and shake vigorously sideways; you may see a lot of movement if you time the shakes to build up a resonance. Looks to see what the tires are doing front and rear; since they are passenger car tires (the P in front of the size), then the sidewalls may well be too soft. An LT tire might be good, at least load range D and E preferred. (But there is some $$$ for sure.) And if you have leaf springs in the back of the truck, they are not really made to resist small to moderate sideways flexing, so you make see movement there. Is the hitch tight in the receiver? You'd be surprised how much that can allow things to veer back and forth, especially on a short trailer.

Also look where the center of gravity of the car (front to rear) is relative to the trailer axles. Car CoG is usually pretty close to where the drivers butt is located. Just make sure that CoG is not behind the midpoint between the 2 trailer axles.

Good engine in that 300 6 cylinder.
 
You might want to use leveling bars with sway control hitch. I got mine off amazon for around $250 took the sway out on my 1/2 ton truck.
My 1 ton does not need it just hook to the ball.
 
Good on the level of the truck.

Grab the back quarter of the truck without the trailer and shake vigorously sideways; you may see a lot of movement if you time the shakes to build up a resonance. Looks to see what the tires are doing front and rear; since they are passenger car tires (the P in front of the size), then the sidewalls may well be too soft. An LT tire might be good, at least load range D and E preferred. (But there is some $$$ for sure.) And if you have leaf springs in the back of the truck, they are not really made to resist small to moderate sideways flexing, so you make see movement there. Is the hitch tight in the receiver? You'd be surprised how much that can allow things to veer back and forth, especially on a short trailer.

Also look where the center of gravity of the car (front to rear) is relative to the trailer axles. Car CoG is usually pretty close to where the drivers butt is located. Just make sure that CoG is not behind the midpoint between the 2 trailer axles.

Good engine in that 300 6 cylinder.
The "P" tires are something I figured ain't helping. Definitely sidewall flex when I shake the truck. I have 28 psi in them. I'll try more psi when I tow.
Yeah, and leaf springs don't have the lateral resistance that a 4 link with good bushings would.
I checked the hitch. It has 1/4" deflection by the time it gets out to the ball! I'm going to weld some flat washers or something on it to tighten it up.
If the C of G is at driver's butt (car is 55/45), I had it 4" forward of the middle of the two axles.

I agree, that 300 is a champ. 20 mpg highway, 16 local, w/o a trailer. I don't want to check it w/a trailer!

Great ideas! Thanks.
 
You might want to use leveling bars with sway control hitch. I got mine off amazon for around $250 took the sway out on my 1/2 ton truck.
My 1 ton does not need it just hook to the ball.
I'm gonna try some lesser $ stuff first. I just bought the hitch, hate to take a beating on it. But, money is less significant than safety, for sure. Thanks.
 
The trailer mfg. installed the valve stems. They look standard to me. The trailer mfg. also recommends 50 psi. I hope you're wrong! What would be a good alternative?
I use the high pressure ones. Cheap insurance compared to the standard all rubber ones. It's when they get a little age on them that I've had problems with the standard ones. Rubber is just not the same these days. They usually dry rot and split at the hole. Start at 50 psi and it climbs from there once warmed up. Already over what a standard stem can handle.
Milton (MIL49350)
 
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The "P" tires are something I figured ain't helping. Definitely sidewall flex when I shake the truck. I have 28 psi in them. I'll try more psi when I tow.
Yeah, and leaf springs don't have the lateral resistance that a 4 link with good bushings would.
I checked the hitch. It has 1/4" deflection by the time it gets out to the ball! I'm going to weld some flat washers or something on it to tighten it up.
If the C of G is at driver's butt (car is 55/45), I had it 4" forward of the middle of the two axles.

I agree, that 300 is a champ. 20 mpg highway, 16 local, w/o a trailer. I don't want to check it w/a trailer!

Great ideas! Thanks.
Yes, that is a lot of motion out at the ball.... the trailer will wander back and forth with that. I have just wrapped duct tape tightly around it or shoved pennies in the gap LOL. Once you get a tight fit , slather it with grease so it will not 'rust-weld' itself in place. I leave the vertical slop in there.

BTW.... It's easy to figure the CoG location longitudinally if you know the F/R weight ratio. For 55/45, it'll be 45% of the wheelbase length as measured back from the front spindles.

Yep, the 1st 300-6 I saw was in a '65 Galaxie with a 1 bbl and 3-on-the-tree..... got 22 mpg locally in the mtns.
 
I use the high pressure ones. Cheap insurance compared to the standard all rubber ones. It's when they get a little age on them that I've had problems with the standard ones. Rubber is just not the same these days. They usually dry rot and split at the hole. Start at 50 psi and it climbs from there once warmed up. Already over what a standard stem can handle.
Milton (MIL49350)
Thanks George.

Yes, that is a lot of motion out at the ball.... the trailer will wander back and forth with that. I have just wrapped duct tape tightly around it or shoved pennies in the gap LOL. Once you get a tight fit , slather it with grease so it will not 'rust-weld' itself in place. I leave the vertical slop in there.

BTW.... It's easy to figure the CoG location longitudinally if you know the F/R weight ratio. For 55/45, it'll be 45% of the wheelbase length as measured back from the front spindles.

Yep, the 1st 300-6 I saw was in a '65 Galaxie with a 1 bbl and 3-on-the-tree..... got 22 mpg locally in the mtns.
Sounds good. Thanks.
 
I welded washers on it. Dressed them down and added some weld in other areas to eliminate the wiggle. Next time I go to Atco, I'll see how it is. On the way home, I'll put a little more air in the truck tires and see what happens.
 

I guess it is what it is. I went to Atco again last night. It still pulls about the same with the slop taken out of the hitch and 35 psi in the tires. The sticker on the door says I can run 35 in the front and 41 in the rear. The tires on the rear say 35 is max. When it needs tires, I'll put LT's on it.
I went the "back way" (about 50 mph), and did however, find out that it handles the back road curves well. "That is all."
 
Towing speed limits range from 55-65 mph depending on state.

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Towing speed must be considered. I run both the enclosed car hauler and the 5th wheel camper at max PSI “cold” for tire rating cause my foot is heavy and the load as same. I once had to drop the PSI on the 5ver due to extreme temps coming home from the beach in Fl. After loosing 2 crappy Goodyear ST’s on the trip. All my tires today are 75mph rated!
 
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