what is the problem with discount and some of these tire joints these days.

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You go gettem Rainy!!

I stopped at a Firestone cause I had a nail in the center of the tread. I asked them to repair the tire. They said we can't since the nail is near the sidewall. I said, look its right in the center of the tread. They insisted and tried to sell me a new tire at nearly $200.

Took it to an old school place and they plugged it in 15 minutes and charged me $15. I love the old school garages!
 
It sounds like they actually thought it was front wheel drive. It amazes me how people don't know anything about old cars. Especially in some areas. We had 850 cars in our cruise this year, turning away almost 100 more. I called a local place for alignment "oh uhhh we might be able to? and you'll have to give us the specs". I have my custom specs anyways. But what's so different about a 1972 Scamp than any other vehicle?

I'm so used to all the "It's a what year?" "What model is that" "Oh plymouth? They haven't made those in a while." Etc etc. That I just look up everything myself and call with the numbers. Cut's down on about 15 minutes of explaining. And dealerships? Forget that. I called once to see if they could do rear gears. I tell them "I need 4.10 gears for a 8-3/4, 489 case." After a short pause there was an audible "uhhhh". So I said "Ok, rear gears, for my differential in my car" "Ok what kinda car" Heeeere we go "1972 plymouth scamp" "Uhhh do you have the vin?" "yes, but it won't help you, rear end is not original to the car. It's an 8-3/4, very common, 489 case and I want 4.10 gears." "Uhhhh we need the vin off the car that the rear end came out of then" That rear end was pulled and stuffed in my car 10+ years ago. I have no idea where the hell that car is. Or what it even was. The car is probably 20 different cars by now. Or maybe it's rotted into the ground. Who knows. So I tell him "I don't have the vin for that car" "Well we can't look it up without it" "Ok!" CLICK. People just don't wanna try anymore. Heaven forbid you drive something unique.

Go forth! Buy yourself a shitty silver box with a shitty 4 cylinder that gets great mileage and hauls your *** to any place you want while not making the ride enjoyable or interesting in the least.

EDIT: For my SHITTY spelling.
 
they have "policies" so they don't get "sued" incase somebody has an accident and the insurance company blames the car's unstable condition due to improper tire size installed at the tire shop.

I wonder if the car being unstable might have something to do with the 600 or 700 HP some of us are putting in these things. LOL My insurance company didn't even ask what kind of power I had.

Jack
 
You go to those chain tire stores..." I can't sell you tires unless you buy the alignment and warranty". Uh, no. You cant sell me tires because you are too much of a salesman... OUT.
" 4 tires, $99" and it cost you $240 out the door after mounting, balancing, and roadside warranty, and of course your old tire disposal. Fine print, "No carry-outs" plus those tires are 155/80R12's which I think only fit trailers and '78 Honda CVCC's
 
About 10 years ago Discount decided that their people were smarter than the consumer. I had multiple dis agreements with them about the tires on my beater. It was a 94 Mazda 626 V6 car that had 205 55 x 15 tires on it. If you looked at the door frame, it stated that these were the tires recommended on the sticker. They told me that odd size tire was difficult to come by. I called BS on the salesperson & he called the manager over who told me the same thing. I went to another Discount store that had the tires in stock, bought them, had them installed, & hit the road. About a month later on developed a twisted belt & I took it back for warranty, no problem they say & replaced it. A week later the opposite axle tire had the same problem, so I took it back & it was replaced free of charge just like the first one. Two weeks goes by & a third tire develops the same problem. I take it back to the same place & they refused to replace it, saying I must be hitting curbs or running over objects in the road. I walk over, take my keys out of the service envelope, get in my beater & drive off. I wrote Discount corporate a scathing email, name the store & all the individuals I had dealt with on all three tires. I got a reply that says, "We hope that your one bad experience doesn't keep us from getting more business from you". The person made the mistake of including his office phone number in the email. I called, asked to speak to him & told him that I had spent the last of my hard earned dollars with them, & told him to look up my business transactions by my phone number. He came back on the line & apologized because when he looked me up in their system, I showed that I'd bought over 30 sets of tires from them in the last 8 years. He said, " we hope to keep your business". I basically told him that I would be like the old lady in their early commercials & be pitching the four tires on my beater through the window of 4 different stores. He hung up on me, LMAO I think I might have pissed him off!
 
Years ago I was working on a prerunner Ranger...wanted 33×12.50×15's on 7" wide wheels. Went to damn near every Tire store in East Mesa. All I heard was no, tire manufacturers claim 8" is as narrow as I could go....was also told that some National Tire blah blah backed it up. Went to Discount, guy asked me if the truck was for "off-road" use only...nodding his head when he said it.....simple enough to get around.
 
I just had the tire store experience myself. My Ram 1500 has aluminum nuts that retain the tire pressure monitors. The Ice Slice road salt corroded one so bad it broke in two. A slow leak developed around the stem shortly after that. I checked with the parts houses to see if I could get a replacement nut but they did not have any available. I took it to a tire shop and was told they weren't allowed to service tire pressure monitors. They could only replace it with a new one for $69.00 plus a flat tire repair charge. I thanked them and went to another tire shop. I got the same story from them. They told me federal regulation would not allow them to service a tire pressure monitor by replacing the nut and they could only sell me a new one for $85 installed. I went home and ordered a couple of kits off EBay. When they arrived I broke the bead, pulled the TPMS and cleaned it, replaced the seal, stuck the thing back in and installed the new nut. It's been holding air just fine now with a $4 fix. If you see my yellow RAM on the road you might want to get out of the way because the feds don't think it's safe with a serviced tire pressure monitor!
 
If you had taken in the loose tires/wheels they would have changed them no questions asked
 
If you had taken in the loose tires/wheels they would have changed them no questions asked
I tried that in December because I was putting tires on a non running project car in the field to move it. Discount tire said they have to have the vehicle there to prevent them being liable for people putting tires on the wrong application.

so I already knew that was a no go with them, but I wasn't expecting the "you car is not safe" lecture this time.
 
Some of the box chains are just plain stupid.
 
Ive had no problems with Discount Tire.
Just have to know how to deal with them.
 
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No, you'll drive a Yirus and like it. The Libs know what's best and are looking out for you lincoln

interesting. I just had a couple of 20' tires mounted for my 02 ram yesterday. bought them off the internet. a girl waited on me at the counter, I took her out to the truck and showed (told) her 3 times what I wanted , and which tire to be the spare. she couldn`t even write it down right ! ever heard the words --educated idiots !? the last time, I bought tires at that place (I trade w/ them because they are cheaper on their labor) the idiot that changed the tires put 3 diff. size lugnuts on the car. I always double check the air pressure and everything and found it. he even put 2 diff. size locking lugnuts on it ! I made them change all of them out. the same guy, " watched closely by the manager" , had a black eye. guess he was a real winner . A Lincoln place in Tulsa did even worse to my wifes mercury, we don`t trade w/ them any more either !
 
My 68 dart is daily driven, rain snow sleet or shine.

So the front tires are showing some wear and it's getting bad. I have a radio delete so I listen to the car very carefully and I know it very well.

Last night I could feel a bit of a shimmy and it's because they are getting really worn and I think one is starting to bulge. Not really a heart break because I have had these tires a long time now and they are getting worn within their time.

So I go to Discount tire.

"how can I help you" the guy says. I tell him I need a pair of front tires and I tell him the size I want and point to the car through the window.

He says, Ok, I will just go have a look at what size it has now. I say, it doesn't really matter because the size I am asking for is different because I don't like the size there and I want a slightly taller tire.

He says, well it's not really good practice to change the tire size because it can cause pre-mature suspension wear and throw off the speedometer.

I tell him, that is ok, I have a tin full of different speedometer gears if I need to change it to get it closer.

he says, can you hold on one moment. He goes and starts talking to another guy and they go outside to look at the car.

he comes back and says ....based on the condition of this car I would assume you drive it everyday...right? I say yes, I drive it anywhere and everywhere.

He says "miss, you should really consider driving a newer car, these old dinosaurs are just not safe or reliable"

So I say, " are you going to lecture me or sell me some tires??

He says, I can only sell you the same size that is there and they have to be put on the back.

I said " I don't want them on the back because those back tires are fine and where I want them."

he just stared and I said ok, that is fine and I just walked out.

Then I went to a local Mexican tire shop that sells new and used. I told the guy in there what size I want and that I want two NEW ones. He said " yes ma'am". I said I want them on the front. He said "yes Ma'am". He has me pick the ones I want from the rack and then says to help myself to coffee or a get a free complimentary soda while I wait.

twenty minutes later I was driving away with my brand new tires, balanced and all.

Is it really so freaking hard

This is such a common problem. These people are so stupid, they don't know how stupid they are. (Never doubt yourself.) I've had them tell me the tire size on my ACR Neon is wrong. I special ordered it new and know what it came with. The Barracuda's wheels and tires would blow their minds. A close friend races and has his own front end shop. He told me to get what I wanted from Tire Rack and have them sent to his shop. I don't have to be aggravated by Dolts anymore, who think they know what they are talking about but are clueless. Can you imagine one of those idiots figuring out the OD, width and back space to fit a wheel well, let alone change rim diameter? Find a good place and stick with them.
 
My 68 dart is daily driven, rain snow sleet or shine.

So the front tires are showing some wear and it's getting bad. I have a radio delete so I listen to the car very carefully and I know it very well.

Last night I could feel a bit of a shimmy and it's because they are getting really worn and I think one is starting to bulge. Not really a heart break because I have had these tires a long time now and they are getting worn within their time.

So I go to Discount tire.

"how can I help you" the guy says. I tell him I need a pair of front tires and I tell him the size I want and point to the car through the window.

He says, Ok, I will just go have a look at what size it has now. I say, it doesn't really matter because the size I am asking for is different because I don't like the size there and I want a slightly taller tire.

He says, well it's not really good practice to change the tire size because it can cause pre-mature suspension wear and throw off the speedometer.

I tell him, that is ok, I have a tin full of different speedometer gears if I need to change it to get it closer.

he says, can you hold on one moment. He goes and starts talking to another guy and they go outside to look at the car.

he comes back and says ....based on the condition of this car I would assume you drive it everyday...right? I say yes, I drive it anywhere and everywhere.

He says "miss, you should really consider driving a newer car, these old dinosaurs are just not safe or reliable"

So I say, " are you going to lecture me or sell me some tires??

He says, I can only sell you the same size that is there and they have to be put on the back.

I said " I don't want them on the back because those back tires are fine and where I want them."

he just stared and I said ok, that is fine and I just walked out.

Then I went to a local Mexican tire shop that sells new and used. I told the guy in there what size I want and that I want two NEW ones. He said " yes ma'am". I said I want them on the front. He said "yes Ma'am". He has me pick the ones I want from the rack and then says to help myself to coffee or a get a free complimentary soda while I wait.

twenty minutes later I was driving away with my brand new tires, balanced and all.

Is it really so freaking hard
one thing for sure - now you know where NOT to go!
what the heck is a Mexican tire!? :poke::lol:
 
My wife bought a used 2007 Lincoln MKZ all wheel drive in 2010. After a week, we found a flat tire in the morning. I filled it and sent her to the dealer to buy a new tire. She called me and told me the service manager told her the car would "burn up" if they only replaced just one tire since it was all wheel drive. This scared the hell out of my wife as she assumed that the Ford dealer would not lie to her about something as serious as this (my wife is a lawyer). I said to put the service manager on the phone. He told me the same BS. So I ask him to specifically identify which part of the car would actually catch on fire and he told me the computer would. I grilled him ”so the to computer will actually catch on fire???" Then he says "no, but it will burn out the computer because it is all wheel drive and ABS brake sensors will see that the wheels are turning at different speeds since the tires will be different diameters with just one new tire". Then I tell him that I am a mechanical engineer and his story is pure BS. He disagrees, so I ask him would the computer "burn up" if the wife drove the car with low air pressure in just one tire? He said that if she didn't drive it too long like that it would be OK. So I asked him, how long is too long, a week, a month, six months? He didn't know. So I asked him what the tread depth is on the new tire and the other three tires. It turned out that the other three tires were only 1/32" worn difference from the new tire. I asked the service manager if 1/32nd inches were enough to cause the computer to burn up and he said it would still be a possibility. I asked him if running any of the tires with lower air pressure in it versus the other three tires would also change their diameters by 1/32" or more and he thought that low air pressure in one tire wouldn't change the tire's diameter at all. I then told my wife to come home and I would buy her tire somewhere else. Well she was so upset by what the service manager told her, she didn't even want to drive the car home for fear of it burning up with her in it! I caled Ford's regional center to complain and I told them what this service manager told us and asked if it was true that replacing only one tire on an AWD ABS car was recommended or would it in any way damage any part of the car. She sent the question up to the factory tech center and an engineer there said emphatically "No!" I told her that my wife didn't want to own another Ford because this experience made her afraid to even ride in a Ford. They apologized and logged our complaint against this dealer. Idiots should be put out of business if they use unscrupulous practices like this.
 
You go to those chain tire stores..." I can't sell you tires unless you buy the alignment and warranty". Uh, no. You cant sell me tires because you are too much of a salesman... OUT.
" 4 tires, $99" and it cost you $240 out the door after mounting, balancing, and roadside warranty, and of course your old tire disposal. Fine print, "No carry-outs" plus those tires are 155/80R12's which I think only fit trailers and '78 Honda CVCC's

It was this exact tire I was asking to purchase.....and they are for my Austin...
 
I work at Graham Tire. All of these comments are awesome. I have dealt with all of the above. The reason a lot of the big stores require you to put the two tires on the back are because of the Firestone/ford explorer debacle. They found that all of the fatalities were do to a rear tire blowing out and causing the vehicle to roll over. For the record it was fords fault for requiring less pressure in the Firestone tires.

The different size than the vehicle requires issue someone already mentioned the liability issue. I'm glad we aren't so by the book that it throws common sense out the window.
We swap sizes all the time. Impala SS's get 225/55R18's instead of 235/50R18's all day hahahaha. They last twice as long.

We rebuild tire pressure sensors every time we sell new tires. The aluminum ones are junk and the threads get corroded. Whenever we sell new ones they always get the rubber stem universal programmable units.

We just quite selling used tires. Still keep some for emergencies though. Never know when you dont have a tire in stock. let them use the tire until the new one arrives.

I just made up a stud replacement procedure. (we had an incident hahahaha. $400 worth of emergency brake parts later the 2500 dodge ram was back on the road. thankfully nobody was hurt. stud fell into the rotor and tore the crap out of everything.

i don't mind mounting wide tires on skinny rims but the kids now days with these super wide rims with narrow tires!!!! thats where i draw the line.

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I tried using Discount Tire for a while until I needed tires for my truck...

All they had was "road/street" tires to fit my truck...

I wanted All Terrain as my truck is a 4x4 and I use it to pull cars/parts and drive on my yard with it... He kept pushing his tires...

Not wanting to buy his "Tire of the week", I went to Goodyear and bought a great set of reinforced sidewall All Terrain tires for it.... They are great and just what I wanted...

If you know what you want, then go to a place that will sell it to you without asking you why or trying to get you to change your mind...
 
I work at Graham Tire. All of these comments are awesome. I have dealt with all of the above. The reason a lot of the big stores require you to put the two tires on the back are because of the Firestone/ford explorer debacle. They found that all of the fatalities were do to a rear tire blowing out and causing the vehicle to roll over. For the record it was fords fault for requiring less pressure in the Firestone tires.

The different size than the vehicle requires issue someone already mentioned the liability issue. I'm glad we aren't so by the book that it throws common sense out the window.
We swap sizes all the time. Impala SS's get 225/55R18's instead of 235/50R18's all day hahahaha. They last twice as long.

We rebuild tire pressure sensors every time we sell new tires. The aluminum ones are junk and the threads get corroded. Whenever we sell new ones they always get the rubber stem universal programmable units.

We just quite selling used tires. Still keep some for emergencies though. Never know when you dont have a tire in stock. let them use the tire until the new one arrives.

I just made up a stud replacement procedure. (we had an incident hahahaha. $400 worth of emergency brake parts later the 2500 dodge ram was back on the road. thankfully nobody was hurt. stud fell into the rotor and tore the crap out of everything.

i don't mind mounting wide tires on skinny rims but the kids now days with these super wide rims with narrow tires!!!! thats where i draw the line.

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WTH?? is is - is thaat for reeeal?
 
I tried using Discount Tire for a while until I needed tires for my truck...

All they had was "road/street" tires to fit my truck...

I wanted All Terrain as my truck is a 4x4 and I use it to pull cars/parts and drive on my yard with it... He kept pushing his tires...

Not wanting to buy his "Tire of the week", I went to Goodyear and bought a great set of reinforced sidewall All Terrain tires for it.... They are great and just what I wanted...

If you know what you want, then go to a place that will sell it to you without asking you why or trying to get you to change your mind...

The Goodyear all-terrain adventure with Kevlar. good choice.
 
WTH?? is is - is thaat for reeeal?

I was told this at a training class a few years ago.

As many as 62 deaths and 100 injuries may be due to faulty Firestone tires, including many that contributed to rollovers by sport utility vehicles, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said.

When Bridgestone/Firestone Inc. last week said it would recall all of its Firestone P235/75R15 size radial ATX and ATX II tires, and Wilderness AT tires, the complaints had totaled 46 deaths and and 80 injuries.

Most of the 6.5 million 15-inch tires in question were installed on Ford trucks, notably the Ford Explorer sport utility vehicle. A majority of the reports of tire failure involved tread separating from the tire, sometimes at high speed, causing blowouts and rollovers.

John Lampe, executive vice president of Bridgestone/Firestone, said he couldn’t comment on the agency’s numbers released Tuesday until he received more information about their makeup. But he said he was not surprised that NHTSA had recorded a growing number of complaints and attributed the rising claims to mass media coverage.

“Obviously as more media attention has been played on this, more claims will become known,” Lampe said.

Lampe added that the company was still investigating the complaints.

Rollovers Examined The data released Tuesday shows that while front and rear tires are subject to failure, rear tire failures caused all but two of the 131 rollovers reported to regulators, The New York Times reported. But it also said that determining the frequency of rollovers due to tire failures is nearly impossible because the government does not collect the data and tire makers do not share their data on their own brands.

Sports utility vehicles are more prone to rollover that other cars because of their higher centers of gravity.

Sen. John McCain, consumer advocacy groups and personal injury lawyers have called on Firestone to expand its tire recall, saying its voluntary recall in four states is not enough to protect consumers. In a letter to Secretary of Transportation Rodney Slater, McCain, chairman of the committee responsible for highway safety, said he has serious doubts that drivers and passengers in all states will be adequately protected by Firestone’s recall.


Firestone said Tuesday it would reimburse customers who had to exchange tires included under the recall. Firestone said tires purchased between Jan. 1, 2000 and Aug. 8, 2000 would be covered under the reimbursement policy. Recalled tires that are replaced between the first day of the recall, Aug. 9, and Aug. 16 also fall under the policy.
 
ha! sometimes is good to live out in the sticks! no tire chain stores or anything else! unless ya count MFA( Mo. farmers assn) feed, fert, chem. stores everywhere. no! chem. is not dope! ha ..ya have to buy that from the dope head down the road? don't know.
when ya live out we try to support our small town local businesses if we can, as it eliminates SO much BS as the above stories indicate. knowledge managers and the workers are glad to have a job. if they are not capable and good with customers, that don't last a day. no it doesn't necessarily pay $15/hr unless they have skills that warrant it!
I do buy some occasional used tires in the city, Springfiled, but from a co. that has been in business 40 years. O K so the owner did time in the pen for tax evasion. but that's another story.
 
I found an old Atlas 10/10 knockoff tire changer at a scrap yard for 75 bucks.

I found a snap-on manual spin computer balancer at a pawn shop for $200.

They paid for themselves in about six months.

I can't mount anything over 7" width, but I'm working on that.
(gonna try welding the inner part of a second "cone" to the existing cone bottom)

Last time I went to a chain to do 2 carry in mounts, they wanted $48.50 plus tax.

No thanks.
 
Don't want to go to far OT.
(Hey Discount Tire, sell Rani the tires.)

Contrary to intuition, I've read that a rear blowout is supposed to be harder to recover from because I can't steer the rear end.
I was waiting for you to point out the obvious as someone in the business.
Yea tires blow out that shouldn't. But they do.
Yet, I get people running past me at 80 plus all day on the interstate in top heavy SUVs.

Couple the fact that sport utility vehicles are top heavy and Volvo Syndrome and cell phones and stupid drivers that have no clue about E=mc2 and it's no wonder that the drivers end up Dead Right There. All I'm trying to say is are top heavy vehicles really a good choice for Interstate NASCAR?

I'm going along in my daily driver at 65 or 70 and all of a sudden there is a vehicle upside down in the center lane.
HTF does that happen?
See above.
Rant over.

I was told this at a training class a few years ago.

As many as 62 deaths and 100 injuries may be due to faulty Firestone tires, including many that contributed to rollovers by sport utility vehicles, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said.

When Bridgestone/Firestone Inc. last week said it would recall all of its Firestone P235/75R15 size radial ATX and ATX II tires, and Wilderness AT tires, the complaints had totaled 46 deaths and and 80 injuries.

Most of the 6.5 million 15-inch tires in question were installed on Ford trucks, notably the Ford Explorer sport utility vehicle. A majority of the reports of tire failure involved tread separating from the tire, sometimes at high speed, causing blowouts and rollovers.

John Lampe, executive vice president of Bridgestone/Firestone, said he couldn’t comment on the agency’s numbers released Tuesday until he received more information about their makeup. But he said he was not surprised that NHTSA had recorded a growing number of complaints and attributed the rising claims to mass media coverage.

“Obviously as more media attention has been played on this, more claims will become known,” Lampe said.

Lampe added that the company was still investigating the complaints.

Rollovers Examined The data released Tuesday shows that while front and rear tires are subject to failure, rear tire failures caused all but two of the 131 rollovers reported to regulators, The New York Times reported. But it also said that determining the frequency of rollovers due to tire failures is nearly impossible because the government does not collect the data and tire makers do not share their data on their own brands.

Sports utility vehicles are more prone to rollover that other cars because of their higher centers of gravity.

Sen. John McCain, consumer advocacy groups and personal injury lawyers have called on Firestone to expand its tire recall, saying its voluntary recall in four states is not enough to protect consumers. In a letter to Secretary of Transportation Rodney Slater, McCain, chairman of the committee responsible for highway safety, said he has serious doubts that drivers and passengers in all states will be adequately protected by Firestone’s recall.


Firestone said Tuesday it would reimburse customers who had to exchange tires included under the recall. Firestone said tires purchased between Jan. 1, 2000 and Aug. 8, 2000 would be covered under the reimbursement policy. Recalled tires that are replaced between the first day of the recall, Aug. 9, and Aug. 16 also fall under the policy.
 
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