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As many of you know i have been thinking about upgrading my ignition for quite some time, I've looked at getting a crane cams hi-6 cd ignition and i have looked at the mallory hyfire 6al cd ignition. I have also looked at Don's ignition boxes from Fbo systems. Today i stumbled across these Rev-n-ator ignition boxes from the R/T garage.com. The Rev-n-ator box has a built in rev limiter and is a direct plug and play ignition box, looks identical to the mopar ecu's. They claim up to a 40 horsepower increase with the rev-n-ator, wich seemed too good too be true to me, I figured right here would be as good as place as any to ask questions about it. I figured there has to be people here running them, How do they perform? I see that they are asking 189.000 bucks for it, and i see that they recomend the use of a ballast resistor if its on the street.
How does this box stack up compared to don's box at fbo systems? And how does it stack up against the aftermarket cd ignition's? Does the rev-n-ator box allow larger gaps on the aprk plugs? And i couldnt find anything about a warranty on there web site, but does the rev-n-ator have a warranty? and how long is the warranty?
Sorry to be asking so many questions about it, i just figured somone here would know alot about it and be able to tell me. I"m currently running a 4 pin wells ignition ecu and a 2 prong wells ballast resitor 1 ohm with a crane cams lx91 e-core style ignition coil and a mopar performance distributer that i purchased from don at fbo systems. I have been wanting to get a better ignition, the wells box hasnt failed me, but i know i could get more spark out of a better box, and i have been thinking about getting ether a cd ignition crane or mallory or don at fbo systems ignition box, and now i am awfully curious about the rev-n-ator box. Wich ignition would you guys recomend.
 
This month's issue of Mopar Muscle did a write up comparing the Mopar Orange box/ Chrome box & Rev-N-Ator... The Rev-N-Ator out performed the chrome box pretty significantly. I don't have the article in front of me to be able to quote the numbers (I believe they used a 440 to test). Interesting info.
 
How do any of us know this was even a legitimate test?
 
67Dart273 said:
How do any of us know this was even a legitimate test?
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JMO, but i think its just best to read between the lines here. Certainly there could be variables within that test, but i think its safe to say they're comparable and a built-in revv limiter is nothing to sneeze at.

I might be buying one just for the revv limiter(and that my chrome box is corroded all to hell)
 
magnumdust said:
JMO, but i think its just best to read between the lines here. Certainly there could be variables within that test, but i think its safe to say they're comparable and a built-in revv limiter is nothing to sneeze at.

I might be buying one just for the revv limiter(and that my chrome box is corroded all to hell)
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Msd makes a (inside the distributor) module that voids the ignition box all together and it has a rev limiter built in also.
Less than $100 bucks and the only other thing you would need is an HEI coil.
No more factory spark, no more ballast resistor.
Full HEI ignition and a rev limiter to boot.

The unit has an extra wire that comes out of the distributor that sets the rev limiter.
Lets say you want a 6000 rev limit.
You rev to 3000 and push the button and you have a 6000 limit.
It also displays the setting by making your tach jump up to the set rev limit for a second or two when you start the car.
 
seems interesting thats for sure... And according to there dyno tests with different ignition boxes i'm running one of the worst boxes you can run. Because i am running a 4 pin Wells ignition module and it tested below the mopar orange and mopar chrome ignition boxes.
I just need to decide if i wanna get the Rev-n-ator box or Don's box from fbo systems wich also has a rev limiter and a 2 year warranty or if i wanna get a cd ignition from crane or mallory, it would be nice to just plug something into my exsisting harness and go, and have a rev limiter. I'd rather be able to just plug something in and go, so i guess i need to decide between this rev-n-ator or don's box at fbo systems.
 
Take the 40hp claim with a grain of salt. Ain't no way it's going to make a 40hp increase in a 350hp engine from an orange box. Biggest issue with the orange box is it drops timing at higher rpms.

The rev is a good unit. If you want to stick with a factory looking box with extra features it's a good choice.

There's a big thread on moparts about the rev box.
 
had nothing but problems with fbo hrr688. i even tested it in two of my other cars to make sure it wasnt my cars wiring or my fbo distributor. I had it ion car for two mnths and never even drove car on street. I was told to send it back could be 6-8 weeks for a replacement. i finally said to hell with it an bought msd street fire cdi box. car runs perfect now.:D
 
Dave Dudek claims 15hp on the top end with his Pure Stock HEMI R/T over the chrome box. Thats a Drag strip test not dyno.
 
I bought and installed one in my Cuda/340. I can say... it for sure didn't give me 40HP extra,but It made a difference and I love the look and the fact that I can set RPM limiter with ease.
 
TrailBeast said:
Msd makes a (inside the distributor) module that voids the ignition box all together and it has a rev limiter built in also.
Less than $100 bucks and the only other thing you would need is an HEI coil.
No more factory spark, no more ballast resistor.
Full HEI ignition and a rev limiter to boot.

The unit has an extra wire that comes out of the distributor that sets the rev limiter.
Lets say you want a 6000 rev limit.
You rev to 3000 and push the button and you have a 6000 limit.
It also displays the setting by making your tach jump up to the set rev limit for a second or two when you start the car.
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For my 5.9 Magnum build I consider a rev limiter a must, especially with a 4 speed and the potential for blown shifts etc. I'm doing the engine on a budget and most of the rev limiter options I've looked at get rather spendy. Its nice to see there are some affordable alternatives.

No way do I believe there's a 40 hp gain. :wack: That kind of claim diminishes my respect for the owner of the product and whoever they are paying to advertise.
 
Idaho said:
For my 5.9 Magnum build I consider a rev limiter a must, especially with a 4 speed and the potential for blown shifts etc. I'm doing the engine on a budget and most of the rev limiter options I've looked at get rather spendy. Its nice to see there are some affordable alternatives.

No way do I believe there's a 40 hp gain. :wack: That kind of claim diminishes my respect for the owner of the product and whoever they are paying to advertise.
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With a 5.9 and a stick, I would call a rev limiter a must have also.
Here's a link to MSD's HEI capable module with limiter.
http://www.jegs.com/i/MSD-Ignition/121/83647/10002/-1?parentProductId=757483
 
ya i want a rev limiter too, i also have a 360 magnum. I dont understand why so many people ether have terrific luck with don's stuff ffrom fbo systems or they have horrible luck.... But his box has a 2 year warranty. the rev-n ator box only has a 1 year warranty. I like the rev-n tor box better then don's as far as looks goes, but perormaance i dont know? The rev-n ator requires you use a ballast on the street don's doesnt, but i hve been told don's box is nothing more then a 4 pin Gm hei module inside a billiet mopar looking box..
 
Also been told thats why so many people have a hard time with don's boxes is because the Hei requires more juice to fire them off, and another reason they fail alot if they are hei module's is becaue they probly get real hot insie the billiet box he makes right?
 
crackedback said:
Take the 40hp claim with a grain of salt.

There's a big thread on moparts about the rev box.
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Yeah. I am the one that started the most recent thread.
I became interested in the unit after the Mopar Muscle article. The 40 HP gains were at specific momentary instances in a narrow RPM range. It was as if the Cheapie Wells unit has a glitch at the 3200-3600 range where it REALLY pulls timing out of the curve.
Making blanket assumptions isn't sensible. READ the information and make a decision. The dyno tests show the numbers and the calculations show the average gains in both HP and torque. The box was tested by Kevin at Dunnuck Racing at his own expense. He had no financial stake in the outcome.
I ordered a unit and expect delivery next week.
 
does the rev-n-ator have any kind of warranty? I always thought wells made good ignition parts, i currently have a 4 pin wells module right now, if it pulls timing out at 3200 to 3600 rpm then that sucks, i paid 50 bucks for the wells module i have, but i guess its a hunk of junk to say the least. I'm still debating over the rev-n-ator or don's box from fbo systems, i like don's 2 year warranty and the fact that it has a rev limiter as well and the ballast resistor can be eliminated, but the storys i have read about people not being able to get don's box to perform for very long if even at all kind of scare me away from it... I've been told don's box is a 4 pin Hei module in a fancy billet case with a rev limiter on it. So i guess making sure its in a cool enviorment and making sure it gets fed a solid 12 to 14 volts would be very important in keeping it running, on the other hand the Rev-n-ator has a rev limiter and is supposidly new digital technology that doesnt pull timing out but still requires the use of a ballast on the street and the rev-n-ator is about 20 bucks cheaper then don's box.
 
pjc360 said:
does the rev-n-ator have any kind of warranty? I always thought wells made good ignition parts, i currently have a 4 pin wells module right now, if it pulls timing out at 3200 to 3600 rpm then that sucks, i paid 50 bucks for the wells module i have, but i guess its a hunk of junk to say the least. I'm still debating over the rev-n-ator or don's box from fbo systems, i like don's 2 year warranty and the fact that it has a rev limiter as well and the ballast resistor can be eliminated, but the storys i have read about people not being able to get don's box to perform for very long if even at all kind of scare me away from it... I've been told don's box is a 4 pin Hei module in a fancy billet case with a rev limiter on it. So i guess making sure its in a cool enviorment and making sure it gets fed a solid 12 to 14 volts would be very important in keeping it running, on the other hand the Rev-n-ator has a rev limiter and is supposidly new digital technology that doesnt pull timing out but still requires the use of a ballast on the street and the rev-n-ator is about 20 bucks cheaper then don's box.
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So,what leads you to believe your Wells box is a hunk of junk ?
 
Well what leads me to believe the wells box i have is a hunk of junk is because in an article that was done in mopar muscle magazine they dynoed a failry warm 440 they ran a stock replacement 4 pin wells ignition module, they also ran a 4 pin mopar chrome module and then lastly they ran the rev-n-ator. And the wells box produced the lowest numbers and pulled the most timing out, apparently it had a weak spot in between 3000 to 3600 rpm, wich is where alot of my torque is at on my engine. The mopar chrome module made the wells box look ridiculous and the rev-n-ator made both of them look ridiculous.
 
I Am really interested in the rev-n-ator module, i just wanna find out what kind of warranty it has, and i never knew they recomend no vaccum advance with the rev-n-ator box... That sounds pretty strange to me... and if thats the case i wont be buying one, i run my vaccum advance off of manifold vaccum, i have it set to add 10 degrees of timing at idle. I run 14 degrees initial timing plus another 10 degrees from vaccum advance for a total of 24 degrees of timing at an idle and my total timing is set at 32 degrees.
Don's ignition box from fbo systems deffanatly has the best warranty with a 2 year warranty, i have just read about so many people having trouble with his box that i am leary of purchasing it, i'm sure my ignition coil could handle don's box good because the coil i run is a crane cams lx91 e-core style coil that can be used with cd ignitions or inductive ignitions, don claims his coil is the only coil that can handle his box, but i bet my crane cams lx91 would handle it ok seems how it can handle a crane cams hi-6 cd ignition just fine.
I just wanna get an ignition that has a little more fire to it, wether it be a crane cams hi-6 cd ignition or a rev-n-ator or don's ignition box from fbo systems, but i also dont wanna be swapping out boxes and burning modules and coils up all the time, so i want something thats good and reliable. and it would also be nice to be able to get something that will plug right into my exsisting ignition harness. thats why i been mainly looking at the rev-n-ator and don's ar688 box whatever he calls it.
 
pjc360 said:
Well what leads me to believe the wells box i have is a hunk of junk is because in an article that was done in mopar muscle magazine they dynoed a failry warm 440 they ran a stock replacement 4 pin wells ignition module, they also ran a 4 pin mopar chrome module and then lastly they ran the rev-n-ator. And the wells box produced the lowest numbers and pulled the most timing out, apparently it had a weak spot in between 3000 to 3600 rpm, wich is where alot of my torque is at on my engine. The mopar chrome module made the wells box look ridiculous and the rev-n-ator made both of them look ridiculous.
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Well dude, that's an article. Don't always believe what you read.
How's your car running with the Wells box ?
Once again your making this waay more difficult than it really is.

Unless your constantly spinning over 6000 rpm's, and going for serious time slips,I seriously doubt you are going to feel any performance differences in these boxes.
Run the Wells,and move on.
 
ya, i dont pull over 6 grand, this engine is in a 4x4 truck. would be nice to get a hotter ignition to allow larger plug gap's fort better throttle response and fuel mileage.. But this truck sure does scream, i've shocked alot of people with it. My buddy bought a 2009 chevy 2500 short bed 4 door 4x4 truck with the 6.0 liter vortec and we were pretty much racing to my house one night and he was shocked my old 1991 dodge ram half ton short bed truck was running neck to neck with him, and he has stock tires, i have a 4 inch lift and 33 inch tires.
 
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