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I didn't say anything about legal, but I would say if your being cool you should pass 98% of cops with no problems...How do you define "legal"?
Once we know that it will make the discussion much more simple.
I didn't say anything about legal, but I would say if your being cool you should pass 98% of cops with no problems...How do you define "legal"?
Once we know that it will make the discussion much more simple.
I did and if ya run around here with a wrinklewall and you trip the loud meter you are busted.I didn't say anything about legal, but I would say if your being cool you should pass 98% of cops with no problems...
you can start a whole new (probably controversial) thread on the differences between your modern muscle car and an older one with the c.i.d., but not here...I must be confused here. What are we talking about... hooking? Flooring it, dumping the clutch, and the wheels not spinning? If so the debate is retarded. 99% of the vehicles ever manufactured are gonna light em up. Some finesse is required even with a Hyundai. As far as 550 being uncontrollable...BS. Challengers, Camaros, Mustangs, Vettes, ect are all in the 500 gross range. My 392 Challenger on stock 245's(if I remember correctly) didn't have any problems. If I dumped the clutch like an idiot....Yes, smoke. But once moving it actually required either inclement weather or gymnastics to break it loose. Sure I had junk that would shake the tires so bad it knocked the rearview off the windshield. Junk suspension and crap tires was the problem not horsepower. And all the stories I hear about basic cars boiling the tires on the highway are utterly rediculous. Unless these people are pushing 1500hp like on Street Outlaws it's BS. Or the car has hockey pucks and you're downshifting and dumping the clutch at full throttle.
that sucks! Here we can still get away with pretty loud pipes, and very under inflated cheaters.I did and if ya run around here with a wrinklewall and you trip the loud meter you are busted.
This is kind of making my point. Did you have 550+ hp ?As with almost every car I've ever worked on, there is more time tied up in hooking and 60's in places OTHER than the rear suspension!
There used to be a huge difference in the cars that could hook and those that didn't on the street. My car would hook in a sandbox and lots of guys I ran had trouble hooking on a decent track. Come play on the street and my stuff would go 1.40 on even the worst roads and run mid 9's. Try catching a car like that even if you run a full second faster popping off a 1.80 or worse 60' like a lot of guy ran on blacktop.
Lots of examples of a chassis that doesn't work on the net.
Oh I've owned my fair share of "old school" muscle cars. I've had cars with leafs, 3 links, 4 links, big blocks, small blocks, you name it. Old or new makes no difference. 500 is 500, the road doesn't know the difference.you can start a whole new (probably controversial) thread on the differences between your modern muscle car and an older one with the c.i.d., but not here...
probably, when crackedback speaks, I listen and learn.This is kind of making my point. Did you have 550+ hp ?
Agreed, but at what point is it just over over overkill for the street ?Who cares? Make it hook on the track, where it counts.
ha,ha,ha overkill a stock 440 dart with 4.30 gearsAgreed, but at what point is it just over over overkill for the street ?
I did and if ya run around here with a wrinklewall and you trip the loud meter you are busted.
See, that is absolutely not true. You may have a legit 1500 horsepower, and you may be hooking, no questioning you there...BUT, you ain't hooking 1500 horsepower.traction control i can adjust via efi and wheel speed sensors. put 1500hp to the ground on a small tire is common place for street racers and no prep racers. lots of guys have done wheel stands on the street. ya just gotta know what your doing and all that is available to you to use.
fyi my slow truck has 7-800ish hp and it will pull wheels if i put it up on the trans brake at 4400ish rpms. have da afcos all around and ladder bars.
but I know people that don't care about hook'n on the track, it's on the street that counts. They feel that's where the real braggin' rights are atAgreed, but at what point is it just over over overkill for the street ?
LOL........Okay steering This Thread back on track again LOL I'm not asking about my car at all. I know it sucks on the tracks I know I'm not getting traction I know my rear end is junk I know my suspension is junk I know I know I know. I'm asking if you will again, how would you you you you you make 550 Plus horsepower hook on the street. Not me not my car.