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Totally disagree with the title. I do not see any more simplicity with a eddy vs a Holley. Try changing a needle and seat and adjust a float level on a eddy as fast as 1 minute that I did in this video on a Holley.
A jet change, power valve change, accelerator cam change, the list goes on. lol
It only took me a half a life time to figure it out. I ran Carters for many years, too many. lol
Honestly...…. with all your threads about heads and yaddy yaddy yadda... It would be cheaper for you to buy a good set of Holley's and put them on your car than to mess with buying and installing heads. (Why do I even bother offering you suggestions... .. LOL).....
I totally diagree with the title.Totally disagree with the title. I've owned both. Still own both. I do not see any more simplicity with a eddy vs a Holley.
That is why he made a title and got his popcorn. He wants folks to fight about it. He is bored and looking for free entertainment.... LOLI totally diagree with the title.
For the same reason as 318willrun. That is, working on them, in some ways Holley is simpler.
For the opposite reason as well. The science in them is the same. Carter just applied some of the science differently than in some Holley carbs.
There is no question here.
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you need to lay out what the arguement/discussion is actually about.
I've been running an early1970s 750DP since about year 2000. After the initial tune, I've just been driving and driving and driving, to the tune of over 100,000 miles. Carb is sorta worn out by now........ but it's like the Energizer Bunny.
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Ditto, a TQ or AVS please.Had both prefer Edelbrock.
Ehhhh, not really every time..... Sometimes they have been beyond pig rich for me. Combo dependent! Nothing more, nothing less.It's simple, if you want the engine to run better and run quicker, get a Holley.
Most Holley's will be closer in tune on any given combo.
The Holley has the ability to be “Precision Tuned” Oliver an Edelbrock carb with so many internal & external adjustment points, an expert should be able to get them to run like fuel injection.
- I can change JETS faster in a Holley than anyone can in a Eddy. Eddy owners have "minimum" control of jetting with the metering rods/springs, but must remove the top of the carb to change the JETS. And, the jetting on a Holley is much easier to understand than a eddy. Talk about science, on a eddy you have to add/subtract the metering rod into the jet size..... LOL
- All the other "tuning" you mentioned for the Holley is for precise tuning. Not that the eddy don't NEED it, it just don't offer it... LOL
Disagree there!The problem with the Carter is simple.....
Not enough needle and seat area.
Ability to tune individual circuits on the Carter is much more difficult. Not that it can't be done. It's just much more time consuming.
The Holley is relatively simple. The real problem is that for more decades than I care to admit, the idiots at Holley and the neophytes who write trash articles teach people incorrect tuning for the Holley. The biggest mistake guys make is not getting the power valve timed correctly. That's HUGE for a street driven car. And Holley is evidently too stupid to teach its users how the main jet and the power valve work together and how to tune for cruise and WOT using both. That has done more damage to Holley tune ups than anything else.
The science of both carbs is the same. A correctly tuned Holley will out power, out drive and out MPG a Carter all day long.
Totally disagree with the title. I've owned both. Still own both. I do not see any more simplicity with a eddy vs a Holley. Try changing a needle and seat and adjust a float level on a eddy as fast as the 1 minute that I did in this video on a Holley.
You do realize all your precise tuning is lost as soon as the barometric pressure changes from the time you tuned it and also anytime you go to a different elevation?
- I can change JETS faster in a Holley than anyone can in a Eddy. Eddy owners have "minimum" control of jetting with the metering rods/springs, but must remove the top of the carb to change the JETS. And, the jetting on a Holley is much easier to understand than a eddy. Talk about science, on a eddy you have to add/subtract the metering rod into the jet size..... LOL
- All the other "tuning" you mentioned for the Holley is for precise tuning. Not that the eddy don't NEED it, it just don't offer it... LOL
If your suggestions are going to be spend $2, 000 on two thousand-dollar Hollies then yes please keep your suggestions, smart move..Honestly...…. with all your threads about heads and yaddy yaddy yadda... It would be cheaper for you to buy a good set of Holley's and put them on your car than to mess with buying and installing heads. (Why do I even bother offering you suggestions... .. LOL)
No duh....That is why he made a title and got his popcorn. He wants folks to fight about it. He is bored and looking for free entertainment.... LOL
Agreed.Correct! After the initial tune, they just keep going and going.... LOL. ... LOL.
LOL I look who cometh forward with the most comments LOL... FISH ON!!
- I have a 750 Holley Double Pumper that works awesome on a stock 360 with stock converter and 2.76's. Nail it from a dead idle and no coughing, no fluttering, no hesitation, performs great, cruises great and drives around town like a dream.
- I have a 600 eddy on my wife's 360 Ramcharger and it runs super as well.