70 dart 470 ci drag car build.
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The sad part is I'm doing this stuff at work because I run out of work or something dumb happens like, someone forgot to order parts for me
PRH
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I guess I’m thinking about the gains vs the effort.
I can’t imagine there not being a gain…….. but how much of one?
At some point the induction limitation would shift from the manifold…… to the heads.
I can’t imagine there not being a gain…….. but how much of one?
At some point the induction limitation would shift from the manifold…… to the heads.
I agree, really there's not much more I am trying to gain. I did the intake wrong last time, I wanted to fix it. I think I have about 50-60 HP leeway before I'm putting my engine in danger of hurting the block.
If I had more time and money I'd put the engine back together as it was just to see what the tunnel ram will do but that's not just my time, that's taking up Dyno time too.
PRH
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I see it like this………
If what you’ve done this time around(along with the new cam) allows the curve to hang on better up top……….that’s where the big gains will come from.
If what you’ve done this time around(along with the new cam) allows the curve to hang on better up top……….that’s where the big gains will come from.
PRH
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Where were the peaks last time around?
lol tractor rpm lol. It should go up a bit from there this time. I’d like 1k but like PRH said the heads will become the cork.
Next up…B1’s!!!!
And a real block lol.
I’m spending your money real good ain’t I?
PRH
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A 1k higher(than 58-5900) hp peak for a 470” build with std port heads might be asking a lot(especially if the hp number is also exceeding 2x the flow number), but nothing wrong with aiming high.
Of course, you’ll have ports slightly larger than a true “standard” size port.
Of course, you’ll have ports slightly larger than a true “standard” size port.
I’m a wishful thinker lol.
Edit: if you don’t mind when his engine comes off the pump I’d like to send you the observed and fuel flow numbers for you to get your eyes on.
And whatever else you want to see. BSFC? I will make some pulls with the air hat and send you that if you want.
Me too, I like the b1s and real block.
I'm pretty sure I'll have to buy both of those, not much I can do with my welder to make anything like those lol
mopowers
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Man, that's a lot of work! Question - will the heat from welding affect the epoxy at all?
Yes, lots of work, I'm not sure yet about the heat tolerance, I'm going to try really hard to keep the thing from getting real hot
It's only about .100 thick so if I take a day to weld it should be fine.
mopowers
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I'm looking forward to seeing the final product.
Thanks.
Yep, just enough to not break it is good enough for me
Where’s my big
.Piss on that. If we **** the block and make 750-760 I’m good with that.
I won’t be happy with 695 either.
More horsepower is always better. Even if the block takes a dump.
Just get a YouTube channel and break out the stripper pole.
Lots of dudes would watch a 6’4” ginger working his money maker. Not me, but who am I to criticize what dudes want to see.
Who am I kidding?? I watch 5 minutes just to tell my eventual grandkids I saw it with my own eyes.
You’d have a new aftermarket block and Predator heads in no time!!!
ValiantS
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We can help with that over here.Where’s my big
Piss on that. If we **** the block and make 750-760 I’m good with that.
I won’t be happy with 695 either.
More horsepower is always better. Even if the block takes a dump.
Just get a YouTube channel and break out the stripper pole.
Lots of dudes would watch a 6’4” ginger working his money maker. Not me, but who am I to criticize what dudes want to see.
Who am I kidding?? I watch 5 minutes just to tell my eventual grandkids I saw it with my own eyes.
You’d have a new aftermarket block and Predator heads in no time!!!
UhhhhhhhhWhere’s my big
Piss on that. If we **** the block and make 750-760 I’m good with that.
I won’t be happy with 695 either.
More horsepower is always better. Even if the block takes a dump.
Just get a YouTube channel and break out the stripper pole.
Lots of dudes would watch a 6’4” ginger working his money maker. Not me, but who am I to criticize what dudes want to see.
Who am I kidding?? I watch 5 minutes just to tell my eventual grandkids I saw it with my own eyes.
You’d have a new aftermarket block and Predator heads in no time!!!
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