Door dropping on my 70 Duster

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burrpenick

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Dont want to buy new hinges or rebuild both entirely- this car rarely is driven and then less than a few miles. I simply want to replace the bushing in the top hinge. Dorman sells these kits that I have used, but its been years. Does this appear to be what I would use (basically tlhe bushings): Door Hinge Pin and Bushing Kit - Walmart.com
 
Those look to be correct. I would measure the pins with yours and keep them in hand until you get the swap done. The job is a bit tricky and dopes require at least two people if you do not have a door holder.

Sometimes the clearances on the new bushings may be off +/- so some adjustments maybe needed in the terms of sanding the bushings with the proper tools to bore them.
 
How bad are they?

2x4 along lower door rear inner frame > floor jack to bend up inner door frame to raise rear of door.

If you are creative you can carefully use a long pry bar under the 2x4 stabbing it in at the top rocker panel step plate area, and pull up on the pry bar to raise the door.

Final adjust the door pillar striker so everything comes into alignment and closes nice.

Careful, Careful, protect areas that you don't want to do damage to.


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Dont want to buy new hinges or rebuild both entirely- this car rarely is driven and then less than a few miles. I simply want to replace the bushing in the top hinge. Dorman sells these kits that I have used, but its been years. Does this appear to be what I would use (basically tlhe bushings): Door Hinge Pin and Bushing Kit - Walmart.com
Do you beleive there is no wear in the bottom hinge? There are no bushings there. The tiny bushings would not withstand the stress of weight and force from detent spring there for very long. So it's iron on iron with or without a periodic shot of lube.
You'll remove the door and lay it face up on a old tire ans hope it isn't damaged while you put a band-aid on one hinge?
Not the stuff heroes are made of. My intent always was to give my fish to a grand daughter. I couldn't say, " I'm putting a band-aide on this for now. You'll probably have to pay someone to fix it someday."
I said band-aid because the holes are usually egg shaped today. Without proper set up you will not correct the holes to their original center location. You'll need a end mill size you don't own and a reamer you don't own in a milling machine or at minimum a rigid fixture set-up you might build.
If the wall.of such a thin bushing isn't properly backed up by a proper hole, it's going to crack.
Back when I worked for the used car dept' GM was selling more than 10 thousand of these pissy little door hinge bushings per year. Myself and everyone else was putting band-aids on and getting paid for it. Good luck.
 
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2x4 along lower door rear inner frame > floor jack to bend up inner door frame to raise rear of door.

If you are creative you can carefully use a long pry bar under the 2x4 stabbing it in at the top rocker panel step plate area, and pull up on the pry bar to raise the door.

this by far unequivocally the most terrible, god awful, horrible advice i've seen here in quite some time.

this is straight up 1970's used car sales lot bobo *** hackery. atrocious at every level.

Careful, Careful, protect areas that you don't want to do damage to.

protect the areas you don't want to do any damage to?!??

yeah like the ******* door frame that you're bending?!??

this is bad advice george and you should feel bad for even suggesting it. be better than this.
 
How bad are they?

2x4 along lower door rear inner frame > floor jack to bend up inner door frame to raise rear of door.

If you are creative you can carefully use a long pry bar under the 2x4 stabbing it in at the top rocker panel step plate area, and pull up on the pry bar to raise the door.

Final adjust the door pillar striker so everything comes into alignment and closes nice.

Careful, Careful, protect areas that you don't want to do damage to.


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Uh, nothing described here is going to change the fact that the pins in the hinges are worn out.

If you jack the door up like that it will just take up the slack in the hinges, and then the door will just fall back down. Unless, of course, you jack the door up with such force that you bend the door, the hinges, or the A-pillar.

100% the wrong way to go about this.
 
Lower hinges were never meant to use bushings or the factory would have made them that way to begin with.

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Lower hinges are $70 each at AMD. Might be cheaper elsewhere, IDK. About 10years ago, I bought some from Richard Ehrenburg for $34 each. I believe the original application for the ones he sold were for something else, as I had to drill one hole out. Worked fine . The original hinges on my Duster were tight but the detent wheels were rusted to oblivion. I bought 6 of Ehrenburg's hinges since they were cheap and they also fit 68-70 B body.

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Lower hinges are $70 each at AMD. Might be cheaper elsewhere, IDK. About 10years ago, I bought some from Richard Ehrenburg for $34 each. I believe the original application for the ones he sold were for something else, as I had to drill one hole out. Worked fine . The original hinges on my Duster were tight but the detent wheels were rusted to oblivion. I bought 6 of Ehrenburg's hinges since they were cheap and they also fit 68-70 B body.

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I believe the Dorman reproductions are for a van, they’re identical except for like one mounting hole. I have a set for my Duster.
 
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