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What type are the female connectors at the ballast? They are not Packards. They look like an average female spade except for the retainer pin.

...like the Baomain Female Spade Quick Splice Crimp Terminals on Amazon?

I looked through the connector links posted, got either bad links or connectors that don't match what I'm after.

This is a futuristic question. I have yet to get the OEM terminals OUT of the connector!

Why? One of the connectors gets a bit warm, indicative of a poor connection from wire to terminal. I want to replace 'em. Not hot..just a bit warm. Voltage at the coil is 8.4V. Everything works as it should. I just want to get rid of the 'warm' part.

Thanks.
 
Shouldn't really matter what type of connectors due to the female connectors being exposed and slip/grip onto the ballast resistor. Chk Pico catalog i bought 99% of my terminals from them.
 
The ballast works by converting electricity to heat to lower the voltage.
If you flip over some ballasts- they are a weird configuration of wire and some sort of cloth like material (others here can explain it better then me) but that resistance is what drops the voltage.
Heat Is the by product. Get rid of the heat and voltage goes up.
 
canyncarvr said:
Why? One of the connectors gets a bit warm, indicative of a poor connection from wire to terminal. I want to replace 'em. Not hot..just a bit warm. Voltage at the coil is 8.4V. Everything works as it should. I just want to get rid of the 'warm' part.
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And the new connectors are going to get warm, too. Nature of the beast- the ballast functions by converting current to heat, and the connectors are attached to that little heat factory.
You didn't say what year vehicle or what type of ballast, or what ignition (breaker point or electronic) but the four-pin ballast generates heat just like a two-pin ballast, but the type of connector used may change...
 
Thanks for the primers in ballasts, The Law, and heat...but they don't apply in this instance. It's not the heat from the ballast that I am looking to get rid of, it's the heat from the connector. The ballast is not connected, a shunt is used, and the heat is present. Yes, get rid of that heat and the voltage goes up. THAT is the point.
 
No idea what's on your car.
Here's what it left the factory with
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or
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Mattax

Post in thread 'Sources for Chrysler type wire terminals'

Reproduction harness (about 15 years old).
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My repair. It took a couple tries using this terminal (standard width crimps). Note the feed wire is SAE 16 ga and the wire continuing to the voltage regulator is 18 ga.
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Factory '67 Ignition Start & Coil feed junction. I dont have a pic of the original for the other one. Now I'm curious if it also the terminal was made for a wire pair even though it has the smaller gage wires.
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And here's the same terminal junction on the M&H repro harness
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Mattax said:
No idea what's on your car.
Here's what it left the factory with
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That is interesting: The 'repro harness 15-years old' pic shows a Packard terminal. The sprung tongue indicates that.

Those are NOT the terminals I have. Mine do not have the sprung tongue. Mine look like your 'factory '67' pic. The only contact tension comes from the bends on the edges. Unlikely it's not an OEM setup. I haven't changed it. I bought the car in '75.

An answer to this will work for me: The M&H repro pic as an example, with Packard terminals, DOES fit/snap into the factory terminal body used at the ballast connection?

If that is true, I can use Packards as a replacement for my NON-Packards and it will work just fine. I would much prefer the additional surface area the Packard female terminals have.

Thanks Mattax, for reading with comprehension. My question explicitly has to do with the terminals...NOT heat from a ballast resistor, The Law of Ohms, and, frankly, not anything to DO with the ballast resistor. Just the connectors.
 
I thought my comprehension was fine lol.:poke: Mattax 4th pic down was what I was talking about. The only time I've seen the style with the spring tongue is on heater/ac wires under dash.
 
People's comprehension was fine, considering the lack of info- no mention of year or ignition type, which changes the wiring and could affect terminal selection.
 
Professor Fate said:
People's comprehension was fine, considering the lack of info- no mention of year or ignition type, which changes the wiring and could affect terminal selection.
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No. It was not. Too much assumin' goin' on, although I do appreciate the intent.

I did not include particulars for a reason. The year (in my signature...which I understand some/most/all fones don't show), the ignition type...none of that is pertinent. No attempt on my part to be smarmy or obstruse about it. I left out the 'all about it' part because my question concerns only the terminal and the body it fits into. I mentioned the ballast only to indicate which terminal I was asking about. Nothing about Ohm's law, heat in a ballast, etc has anything to do with that question.
 
I started an entire thread about those terminals, which is now a sticky. The two types sometimes can interchange but sometimes not because the terminal won't fully lock into the OEM connector housing. I don't know how much clearer I can make it. Click on the link. For some reason when I post links, they show a large snip of the post instead of a URL. @Joeychgo is aware of this and did not have an answer.

When I'm feeling generous and have the time I can go back to the post and edit the code. I am not feeling generous this week. grump grump
 
canyncarvr said:
No. It was not. Too much assumin' goin' on, although I do appreciate the intent.

I did not include particulars for a reason. The year (in my signature...which I understand some/most/all fones don't show), the ignition type...none of that is pertinent. No attempt on my part to be smarmy or obstruse about it. I left out the 'all about it' part because my question concerns only the terminal and the body it fits into. I mentioned the ballast only to indicate which terminal I was asking about. Nothing about Ohm's law, heat in a ballast, etc has anything to do with that question.
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And the terminal body fit could very well be influenced by the ignition being used- single connectors as used on a 2 pin ballast, dual connectors as used on a four-pin ballast; different connectors, possibly different terminals used in them, in different years.
The year (in your signature) doesn't preclude you having or working on a different car, and " '73 with '69 running gear" doesn't help, it only emphasizes that it's not original, so who knows what else was changed.
Best of luck in your search.
 

Mattax said:
I started an entire thread about those terminals, which is now a sticky. The two types sometimes can interchange but sometimes not because the terminal won't fully lock into the OEM connector housing. I don't know how much clearer I can make it. Click on the link. For some reason when I post links, they show a large snip of the post instead of a URL. @Joeychgo is aware of this and did not have an answer.

When I'm feeling generous and have the time I can go back to the post and edit the code. I am not feeling generous this week. grump grump
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This one?
Sources for Chrysler type wire terminals
 
canyncarvr said:
No. It was not. Too much assumin' goin' on, although I do appreciate the intent.

I did not include particulars for a reason. The year (in my signature...which I understand some/most/all fones don't show), the ignition type...none of that is pertinent. No attempt on my part to be smarmy or obstruse about it. I left out the 'all about it' part because my question concerns only the terminal and the body it fits into. I mentioned the ballast only to indicate which terminal I was asking about. Nothing about Ohm's law, heat in a ballast, etc has anything to do with that question.
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Dude, you always do this. You give info that only you think might be pertinent when you don't realize you're leaving out a lot of other pertinent information. That's why I just skate right on by your BS.
 
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Mattax said:
Yes.
Any idea what you are doing with the cut and paste that may be different than when I do it?
I'm right clicking the # in the upper right corner of the post, or copying the URL from the address bar and pasting directly in the post.
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I just go to the thread, copy (right click) the address bar, and then paste it where it's needed.
This is on a Win10 laptop, BTW.
 
The 'heat' in the terminal/connection is dependent on [a] the current going through the connection & the surface area where contact is made between the two terminals. Less contact area, more heat....
 
RustyRatRod said:
Dude, you always do this. You give info that only you think might be pertinent when you don't realize you're leaving out a lot of other pertinent information. That's why I just skate right on by your BS.
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It like I always say: they want help but won’t help themselves or us to help them. That’s why I don’t reply either with the possibility of helping him. Kim
 
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