Indy LA-X vs. Eddy heads

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inkjunkie said:
Another post with the same 2 individuals going at it.....:argue::boxing:
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and you say you can't remember...:toothy10:

nah it's alright though, see if he's gonna post on every cylinder thread that eddel'broke' heads are the best heads for any app AND come off like it's fact when it's not... then I will counter his post every time with the real picture to balance it/shield readers from the blatant BS.

I mean..come on..it's like a gallagher show with all the bs flyin
 
I got a really good deal on my Eddy heads and with money saved had them worked over.Now some of us bought these heads BEFORE the RHS heads were available.If I were to purchase the RHS heads and have them P&P say a stage 2 job,then shipped to Ontario,Canada,paying shipping,border fees,taxes..etc..I,m still ahead with the eddy,s and the weight savings for a race car.Not everybody on this site lives nextdoor to Brian at IMM.Just my opinion with price ranges on getting the RHS heads delivered done.:read2::-D
 
1wild&crazyguy said:
lol now thats the real deal!


Lets see 50lbs lighter beat 40+ cfm!:toothy10:
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w-5.............

OOTB W2

.100”------62.1/44.9-----------
.200”------124.9/101.8--------
.300”------179.4/138.0---------
.400”------220.8/151.1---------
.450”------238.7/155.2---------
.500”------252.2/155.2---------
.550”------258.4/155.2---------
.600”------260.5/155.2---------
.650”------253.6/155.2---------
.700”------253.6/155.2---------


OOTB Eddy....

100”----72.5/N/A
.200”--131.1/107.0
.300”--182.9/151.8
.400”--216.6/181.2
.450”--227.7/182.9
.500”--235.9/185.6
.550”--238.7/185.6
.600”--242.2/185.6
.650”--243.2/185.6
.700”--243.2/185.6

Dont see 40 cfm with out the box w2 vs eddy....
 
pettybludart said:
I got a really good deal on my Eddy heads and with money saved had them worked over.Now some of us bought these heads BEFORE the RHS heads were available.If I were to purchase the RHS heads and have them P&P say a stage 2 job,then shipped to Ontario,Canada,paying shipping,border fees,taxes..etc..I,m still ahead with the eddy,s and the weight savings for a race car.Not everybody on this site lives nextdoor to Brian at IMM.Just my opinion with price ranges on getting the RHS heads delivered done.:read2::-D
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[[[There are guys that run eddelbrock heads and then there are guyz like stroked340 who run eddelbrock heads.

the diff between stroked340 and them is they are good guys that know it can be done different ways and it doesn't take big $$$$ and aluminum to do it...it was there choice and rightfully so..

while stroked340 gos on every thread and barfs out eddelcrock the best!]]]


eddy heads are great, but I can get more CFM/HP 'for the money' in RHS heads ,and to a point, jheads.

if it was cheaper to get eddlebrocks, I would too !
...why not right?
I'd also run 11.2 with a tighter center line/diff cam to take advantage of the heat disapation.
Of corse that just changed my build and cost me more money because see I already have all my parts, but some build around their heads,cams, all kinds of things... it equals the same in the end if you do it right..jst thinking out loud here but thats the whole point...isn't it? a matched combo?
I mean if your going to dump 1400$ into aluminum head, aren't you gonna take advantage of it and make your money count=POWER..?
So bump up the cylinder psi, and run a cam that lifts where those eddy heads really flow the 'slighted' numbers they say...right?
they seem to peak around 550/600 lift ootb
which with a flayt tappet you'll wanna go a lil over for the lag time/exaggeration of the fatter lower lift flow due to having more lift time during the opening and closing than the peak lift OR to make it last.... roller cam time if you want longevity out of 600+ lift.

Reminds me of the old 'bigger is better' cam saga...why is it so sluggish off idle? why isn't it faster? you mean I need all these other things like gears??

the aluminum...600 lift flow....and $1400 price tag is not gonna help when you only run a .500 lift cam with 9.5.-10.1 comp meanwhile the guy in the next lane is running the same 10.1, .500 lift cam, ported iron heads that touch 260cfm before .500 lift

So I'll say this to you guys with the eddys, you better really do it and not fk around, make those dollars count cause I'll be out there in the other lane looking for it.8)
 
inkjunkie said:
Another post with the same 2 individuals going at it.....:argue::boxing:
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As usual.... just like clockwork.
Tastes great --- Less Filling!
TaStEs GrEaT --- LeSs FiLliNg!!
TASTES GREAT --- LESS FILLING!!!

blah, blah, blah...... waah, waaaah, waaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!
This game will never end.

And who just bolts on a head ootb? OK, maybe for the first year. But eventually they come back off for some port work. I'd be more interested in seeing flow numbers for stage 2 port work and then lets compare things.

Until then... :happy1: :-({|= :drinkers: :violent1: :fart: :boxing: :tool: :dink: :bootysha: :thebirdm: :butthead:



Wylde1.
 
70aarcuda said:
w-5.............

OOTB W2

.100”------62.1/44.9-----------
.200”------124.9/101.8--------
.300”------179.4/138.0---------
.400”------220.8/151.1---------
.450”------238.7/155.2---------
.500”------252.2/155.2---------
.550”------258.4/155.2---------
.600”------260.5/155.2---------
.650”------253.6/155.2---------
.700”------253.6/155.2---------


OOTB Eddy....

100”----72.5/N/A
.200”--131.1/107.0
.300”--182.9/151.8
.400”--216.6/181.2
.450”--227.7/182.9
.500”--235.9/185.6
.550”--238.7/185.6
.600”--242.2/185.6
.650”--243.2/185.6
.700”--243.2/185.6

Dont see 40 cfm with out the box w2 vs eddy....
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Where in the quoted text did you read ootb?

btw...I've seen flow tests of certain runs of w2's that only flowed 214-20cfm ootb, the throat cut & VJ is 'stone age'
BUT breath on them with a grinder and you'll be changing your tune, they are the perfect example of potential x10
 
Wylde1 said:
As usual.... just like clockwork.
Tastes great --- Less Filling!
TaStEs GrEaT --- LeSs FiLliNg!!
TASTES GREAT --- LESS FILLING!!!

blah, blah, blah...... waah, waaaah, waaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!
This game will never end.

And who just bolts on a head ootb? OK, maybe for the first year. But eventually they come back off for some port work. I'd be more interested in seeing flow numbers for stage 2 port work and then lets compare things.

Until then... :happy1: :-({|= :drinkers: :violent1: :fart: :boxing: :tool: :dink: :bootysha: :thebirdm: :butthead:



Wylde1.
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I think it spurs more info, the only None informational end of this is stroked340's nothing responses.

man...I sure hope you can tell the diff there..:read2:

But stage 2 would be nice to see, but in compared to what, Rhs? or the old stuff, I say both to see the % diff and @ what lift to tell weather it is usable for joe shmo on the street/strip or mr. race car.
 
why is it that you hit and run posters never wanna discuss what you try and call out on?

to hell with this, This is like teaching retarded children and I don't have the patience...
 
1wild&crazyguy said:
why is it that you hit and run posters never wanna discuss what you try and call out on?

to hell with this, This is like teaching retarded children and I don't have the patience...
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Who are you referring too as hit and run posters or retarded children?
 
pettybludart said:
Who are you referring too as hit and run posters or retarded children?
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someone other than yourself.


sometimes people only post to be the wrench in the gears.

Sometimes people who know exactly what you are talking about and saying want to distract divert from the point for ???? reasons.

hey 70aarcuda, how do those w5's look when you take them out of the box?
 
1wild&crazyguy said:
But stage 2 would be nice to see, but in compared to what, Rhs? or the old stuff, I say both to see the % diff and @ what lift to tell weather it is usable for joe shmo on the street/strip or mr. race car.
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I agree totally. Not everyone can use or needs the same head, stock or ported. As you have stated in the past - it's all part of a combination. If you don't have the right combo, you'll still be sitting there while the guy in the next lane is long gone.

What would be great to see in a separate thread would be flow numbers for stock ootb heads - J, Magnum, RHS, W2, Eddy, Indy and any other head that you can think of. Then do another test of all these heads ported, polished and any other "reasonable" mods you want to do. Finally for both stock and modified give recommendations for cam, compression, rear gears, etc.

Now that would be informative but would take a HUGE amount of work to accomplish. I'm sure flow numbers could be found all over the internet, but who did the work and can the numbers be trusted and not padded? Pissing contests would abound with, "my guy is better than your guy!" You know the story.



Wylde1.
 
carcrazyguy said:
Has anyone done a comparison dyno between these heads? I am still reading up on info for a 360( possible 408 ) build and was wondering about the pros/cons of using one vs. the other. I know the Eddy heads probably weigh less but was wondering if the the LA-X heads might be the better bang for the buck?? Of course with 2.02 valves the LA-X heads are 1075 assembled so there is not a huge price difference.
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how rpms do you plan on turning?-carb size comes into play
what cam?-cam dictates compression-compression dictates octane.etc

'fact' ootb, weather from INDY or IMM, IndyLA-X heads flow better, weather by a few cfm[indy] or 25+cfm[IMM] ..it is also at a lower 'more usable for most average cams' lift.

so yes you will make more power with the IndyLA-X heads ootb.
If plan on having a FULL PORT job done to them, the eddys will have the advantage by 25+cfm.

what is your power goal?
if you stick to this goal, the rest will follow as a necessity 'parts/rpm wise'
in oder to obtain it.

done
 
Wylde1 said:
I agree totally. Not everyone can use or needs the same head, stock or ported. As you have stated in the past - it's all part of a combination. If you don't have the right combo, you'll still be sitting there while the guy in the next lane is long gone.

What would be great to see in a separate thread would be flow numbers for stock ootb heads - J, Magnum, RHS, W2, Eddy, Indy and any other head that you can think of. Then do another test of all these heads ported, polished and any other "reasonable" mods you want to do. Finally for both stock and modified give recommendations for cam, compression, rear gears, etc.

Now that would be informative but would take a HUGE amount of work to accomplish. I'm sure flow numbers could be found all over the internet, but who did the work and can the numbers be trusted and not padded? Pissing contests would abound with, "my guy is better than your guy!" You know the story.



Wylde1.
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and can the work be repeated, thats the where the average numbers come into play, the 3 out of 4 got this### so to speak.
Its a great idea, just need all the heads, use the same bench and have someone with experience in porting all those designs port them all.

twicky shtuff that wood be
 
see if he's gonna post on every cylinder thread that eddel'broke' heads are the best heads for any app AND come off like it's fact when it's not...
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Edel broke,thats one thing my heads won't be.. another beautiful thing about aluminum heads any damage done to them can be repaired..same can't be said for iron heads..

As for w-2's yes they can and will out flow my Edelbrocks..i'm talking factory heads..

As for those j-heads send them over i'll prove they're no match...

As for Edelbrocks being the best for every application i wouldn't say that if i was building i high h.p. stroker i'd go with the Indy 360-1 heads...
 
Sometimes we just get emotionally exhausted by the same tired, self pontificating, rusty, singular perception view and don't feel "the arguement" is worth it.
All the Best,
A Retarded Child :munky2:
 
1wild&crazyguy said:
why is it that you hit and run posters never wanna discuss what you try and call out on?

to hell with this, This is like teaching retarded children and I don't have the patience...
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This post was not intended as a hit and run post. I was asking a real question to help me decide on a path for the motor that I am having built for my Duster project. It was not a post to create tension among anyone. There are two sides to everything and I want to weigh those before I make a $1350 purchase.
 
1wild&crazyguy said:
how rpms do you plan on turning?-carb size comes into play
what cam?-cam dictates compression-compression dictates octane.etc

'fact' ootb, weather from INDY or IMM, IndyLA-X heads flow better, weather by a few cfm[indy] or 25+cfm[IMM] ..it is also at a lower 'more usable for most average cams' lift.

so yes you will make more power with the IndyLA-X heads ootb.
If plan on having a FULL PORT job done to them, the eddys will have the advantage by 25+cfm.

what is your power goal?
if you stick to this goal, the rest will follow as a necessity 'parts/rpm wise'
in oder to obtain it.

done
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carcrazyguy said:
This post was not intended as a hit and run post. I was asking a real question to help me decide on a path for the motor that I am having built for my Duster project. It was not a post to create tension among anyone. There are two sides to everything and I want to weigh those before I make a $1350 purchase.
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Didn't say you did, but cool, then answer these questions for the answer you your question...
 
I like the way the x head looks on the engine, but then again i like stock looking engines/ cars that run hard, the heads on mine are just j's

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yes, but it seems a bit softer than the torker II it replaced, but then again i did go from 25" tires to 28" drag radials with a 3.55 gear.

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i think the torker 1 is a square bore, torker 2 is square but has runners that are narrower at the plenum and gradually "square out to port size" at the head giving it more volocity.. the plenum pic above is the Holley strip dom after a ton of plenum work.
 
1wild&crazyguy said:
you say they are 'barely touched' or 'very lil porting'

I bet I toss on a set of ported J heads and you'll run the same or better with the exception of the weight affect on et/60, a 10th if...

btw
my dad can beat up yer dad...so neener neener:toothy10:
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Tell ya' what.. box those heads up and i'll have them picked up by fed-ex i'l pay shipping both ways just to prove you wrong..

I made this offer to someone that sells preped rhs "super heads" he declined:dontknow::dontknow:
 
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