MRL 340 for the 21st Century

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MRL 340 for the 21st Century

I posted a poll a while back asking how You would like to see a 340 built. Options were 1) Keep it a 340, 2) Mid level stroke- less than 4.00”, 3) Big stroke- 4.00” or more. It was 2 to 1 to keep it a 340. That’s what I’m doing. I’m going to put MY MONEY where my mouth is and show the whole Mopar community what a well thought out, well machined, well-engineered 340 can do.

Is it going to be trick? Why yes, yes it is.

Is it going to be Exotic? No, not at all.

Most everything is off the shelf parts, albeit with some tweaks, but nothing One Off and Exotic. Something that you can fit under the hood and bolt up into your car without a lot of custom work. Unlike some of these super high end dyno challenge engines with all their super fancy dry sumps, super fancy and complicated ignition systems, intakes and spacers that are so over the top ridiculous that they would never fit into your car without having to do some serious modifications. None of that here. With that being said, this will be a very strong running 340 but not a full on, total race/dyno monster. The goal is to make a 340 that will make 550HP at 6500rpm. That’s the goal. 6500rpm in a 340 is a reasonable speed and wont put a lot of wear and tear on the engine. Will it peak there? Maybe not.

Some stuff is pretty basic, some stuff is not. The one big thing that is wrong and always has been wrong with the 340 is the weight of the rotating assembly. It heavy, and not by a little. Its VERY heavy, more than some aftermarket BBM stroker stuff. That’s bad and it causes stress and loss of power. Another thing I don’t like is the area Above the piston pin, its too much(like a 440). Too much area above the pin causes the piston to rock an excessive amount, this puts the rings in a bad position to seal well and it tends to load the wall a bit more than it should when changing direction. So enough of all That. Lets get to the real meat and the test.

The Meat.

340 block 4.080 bore

Forged 340 crank

Flat top piston .927 wrist pin

6.250 I beam rods 2.100 pin size

.043/.043/3mm ring pack

RPM heads full CNC porting

RPM intake, some porting

1.6 roller rockers

MRL/BAM roller lifters

Comp cam 248/254 .575/.585

9.8 to 1 PUMP GAS

FiTech EFI with total timing control


So what did it do? Did we hit our goal? Well, not quite but close.


It made a total of 539.4HP at 6200rpm and 476.6TQ at 5550rpm

The real story is the “Curve”. It made 460TQ from 4450 to 6150rpm and 500+HP from 5500rpm on up.

It idled at 950rpm pulling 10in vacuum, has a nice lope, but not too much. Runs very smooth all the way thru the RPM range. So a 340, NON STROKER Street engine on pump gas making 1.56HP Per CI. That’s a BIG WINNER in my book.

Pics soon, I still have to paint it. Enjoy the dyno sheets.

MRL 340 dyno1.jpg
MRL 340 dyno2.jpg
 
Those numbers will make some strokes blush.


The tall deck hurts with compression distance. That why a 3.700-3.800 stroke is about as much as I like.
 
it would appear the recent 318 mini stroker you built would be a way better deal money wise, would you agree with me
 
in your opinion, what kind of power numbers would you expect if this build was made to run on 87 E10?
 
I like those numbers and especially the vacuum. Put a nice 125-150 gas hit on this and with a good safe tune you are well into the 10's with license plates...

Very much off the shelf parts. Nice piece...

JW
 
I like those numbers and especially the vacuum. Put a nice 125-150 gas hit on this and with a good safe tune you are well into the 10's with license plates...

Very much off the shelf parts. Nice piece...

JW

With 540 hp it should be in the low 10s without hit of laughing gas....if,,,,,,,,,
 
Hey mike, what piston did you use? The longer rod changed compression distance a bit, but was the crank offset ground? Or was a custom piston used? Thanks for all your sweet builds!!
 
:popcorn:Awesome pal. This is the kind of motor I want to do next. Thank You. Could we have some more build details please?
 

I'd almost be willing to be you'd get the 10 extra horse if you pushed that DCR close to 8.5. But with that DCR it should run on any premium pump gas anywhere without problems. Very nice for a street motor.

I see you used that FItech unit again. You are a big fan of those aren't yah? I've got one for my 340 but haven't put it on yet. I'm hoping to have great results with it like you have.
 
it would appear the recent 318 mini stroker you built would be a way better deal money wise, would you agree with me
That would depend on what your looking to do with the power plant. There's a big difference in 356HP/426TQ that runs 87 octane and the above 340. The mini stroker also uses more common inexpensive parts like Magnum heads, inexpensive intake and a 600cfm carb. A small MP Hyd. Cam was used. There is a big price difference in the parts as well as a big difference in power.

That mini stroked 318 would be an excellent cruiser that can get the car moving very well. That engine would really be at home on the Hwy. with no problem. Even in a B body.
 
How much less hp (if any) would this combo have with an 850 Holley carb? (Maybe bigger?)
 
So here are some of the comments that were on the original thread, the voting for a stoke stroke or stroker 340. I love this ****!

"it will be more of a challenge to pull off a 550HP 340" Maybe not

"for that many hp, you need to increase the cubes as much as possible to keep the rpm in a range the valve train can live a long happy life" 6300 is just right

"So when selecting power you want depends what you consider streetable but probably in the .9 to 1.2 hp per cid (408 would be 370 to about 500 hp) street strip 1.2 plus hp per cid" 1.56hp per ci, and streetable

"A 375 hp 408 that puts out 475 plus torque makes a very nice street engine" Id rather have 539 and 476 LOL

"The best 371 I ever built and tested made 489 ft/lbs @ 5400 rpm IIRC and 542HP @ 6900 rpm. I don't know if I have anything in my bag of tricks to do that with a 27 cube deficit. This will be interesting for sure. That 371 in above post was 10.8 static and cranked 195-200 psi --this is borderline pump gas" 9.8 static and 165psi cranking pressure for this 340

"I think, if streetable is to be considered (by a buyer), then you will need to rev it higher to get that figure. Only way to make those figures are more "bangs" per minute. So make it happen and share the particulars. I'm a skeptic - I'll say it's not a big deal on a dyno to make that number with any package. But in a chassis - as a 340 - with a 7K peak? It's not going to happen without some rather fancy tricks and systems. In other words - lots of money and not streetable for the vast majority of users" Still a "Skeptic"?
 
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