ok you guys another idea i need facts and imput on, still debating on 340 3.31 stroke motor option but would a 10-5 to 1 hydralic cam motor run 10.90s in full street trim with stage 3 eddies and the right combo? lets here some opinions and personal motor combos:toothy9:
10.90s WITH A STREET 416
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lead69
hopeless car junkie
I know a guy who runs at the mopar nats here with a full weight 72 dart he pulled off 10.40s.He was running a 406,ported edelbrocks,10.5 to 1,hydro roller cam and I believe 3.91s.Saw him last year and he had put in a backhalved 69 race car and was running 9.90s,he was doing some serious sand bagging to keep from being kicked out since the car wasnt certified for nines.I would say its very realistic to accomplish your goal.
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340srule
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Oh its very do able,i'm just about there with my full interior,full exhaust 416 motored '70 "street" duster,best so far 11.02 @120 mph,will be there in the spring when i upgrade to 4.30's in the rear...:mrgreen:
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DocFiberglass
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Is this thru-the-muffs with real DOT tires ? How much weight are you talking about ? ?
I have very little A engine experience but a Buds "project street sleeper" would be better suited for an A engine ... this car being a early 80's Fifth Avenue.
With some reasonable weight reduction and some fiberglass parts .... I would think maybe(?) ... it could get down to 3200 or so.
With MUFFS and running through them ... with street tires .... and driving it to the track -- he wants to shoot for something that we have had a discussion about ... 11.99 et ...and get 20 mpg.
I have very little A engine experience but a Buds "project street sleeper" would be better suited for an A engine ... this car being a early 80's Fifth Avenue.
With some reasonable weight reduction and some fiberglass parts .... I would think maybe(?) ... it could get down to 3200 or so.
With MUFFS and running through them ... with street tires .... and driving it to the track -- he wants to shoot for something that we have had a discussion about ... 11.99 et ...and get 20 mpg.
AdamR
Big Member
340rules Duster is proof that the stroker are serious runners. Low 11s through the mufflers on drag radials and a pretty small Hyd cam if I remember right.
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340srule
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The cam is a Lunati voodoo series hydraulic .533/.552 with me in the car it weights 3460,i go 280lbs so the duster is pretty light without my big butt in it..lol i should hire a lightweight to drive it it would probably be in the 10's already those 11.0's are through a 3" exhaust on m/t drag radials 60's in the 1.47-1.49 range...
whats your comp ratio, heads, intake, con vertor, i've got stage 3 eddies, a worked victor to match the heads, a choice of 3800 or 4200 convertor, and i'm looking at around 10.5 . can't decide on 1.5 rockers or 1.6's though, need a new set for my 340 but trying to look ahead to my next build:mrgreen:
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340srule
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Compression is 10.9 to 1,heads are Edelbrocks with just a "street" clean up port job from Best Machine,intake is a Edelbrock air-gap,converter is just a 3500 stall,from Ulimate Converters,was going to switch to more stall but more gear will get me my 10.90 slip going from 3.91's to 4.30's...
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340srule
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The cam is a little bigger now...but in '06 i was using a .494/.513 and the car was in the 11.20's...
mikedevore
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Its going to take alot to get that 5TH AVY down to 3200LBS! I played around with one. It weighed 4100LBS w/driver. Mine had a blueprinted E58 360, small valve heads, 8.5 comp., stock 340 cam, port matched Eldo street master intake, T-Quad carb, 1 5/8 headers, 2 1/4 exh, 2.74 lo gear 999, 2.94 8 1/4 suregrip, & all options that worked. 14.80's all day long on 87 octane. It was a fun car. If I was doing it again, it would be a 440 in it.
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DocFiberglass
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md .... 4100 lbs ??... !! ...where is all the weight in that car ? ... they are about the size of an A body ! .. but TRUE -- with alot more "fluff".
And Eddy SM intake ? ... that is with the plenum that severely necks-down ? ..... and then with a TQ carb !! ... wouldn't a Performer been better?
The reason why I and him are thinking SB ... because everything would "fit" better. Like headers and the like. PLUS you can use that 904 trans with the low gear set.
duster harry
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I run a 416 in my duster,dot tires and 3 inch exhaust.The car weights 3000 with me in it. I also have eddies on it . I do run big comp at 14-1. custom 5200 stall,8inch converter and 410 gears. super stock springs. Its very simple car but works very well best to date 10.31@128 with out muffers and 10.43 @129 with. best 50 foot to date is 1.45 but remember the car is set up for the track. big headers, good fuel system, good igniton system etc. You need more than just a big motor.
69Chrgr
Charger/Cuda
I have one in my 408. Haven't started it up yet, however I can't wait.
mikedevore
Well-Known Member
The scales don't lie! 4100 w/driver, I weigh 275LBS, still no light weight. I may have added a little more weight by adding the 8 1/4 over the 7 1/4, cop rear springs & both sway bars. This car was a 1987 with every option for a 5TH. They are a little larger than the A-body. I stand corrected on the intake, it did have a Eldo. Performer on it. The 999 w/2.74 lo gear trans I used is the HD version of the 904. I also used a stock convertor. The 4-door stuff seems to be heavier than the 2-doors. I also had a 1973 4-door valiant that weighed 3500LBS with me in it. My current 1973 Dart Sport only weighs 3290 w/driver. I think part of the extra weight is in the 2 other doors. You might look at a base Diplomat or Aspen for less weight. I still vote for the 440!
Ya, Duster Harry is looking good there. Hows that stall converter on the street? And whats your tire size?
duster harry
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If i took you you for ride in it and drove it like a granny you would not know there was a high stall with 580 horse on tap. You hit the pedal and it puts you seat if you get traction. 40 miles an hour second gear i will blow the tires off . I had awarmed over 440 in a duster that was not as easy to drive as this. Small block stocker is the way to go. The cam is 631 lift comp cams roller.Eddies dont flow out of the box mine flowed 229 now they flow with lots of porting 282@ 550 lift but they drop to 250@ 575 lift. I have purchased a set of batten w2 alum that flow 331@650 lift. Tire size at the present is 30x13.5x15 et streets. If i could figure out how to post pics i would. I am not that smart with comps. lol
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duster harry
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thanks rumblefish 360
383man
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Sure it can be done and still be very streetable. 340'srule runs great and is right there knocking on the 10 second door. A friend of mine also has a street car 416 smallblock stroker that has run 11.30's @ 119. The smallblock stroker's are a very stout combo and I have seen many in the 10's in 3200 lb and lighter A-bodies. So can it be done ??????? Yes by all means as like I said the smallblock stroker Mopar is one of the best combo's out there in my opinion. Ron
Longgone
John/68 Barracuda & Dart
Check with 10 Sec Phill , he`s got a street 416 down to a 9.98. I think a set of W2 heads or some Indys will be instrumental in achieving your 10 second goal.
OldVart
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Great looking and running car there duster harry. Is that Viper Red you have on it?
duster harry
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No its bright red factory colour E5 sprayed in enanal with clear over it. But the rear quarters were sprayed when i had the wheel arches open up with base clear and its off a little. In the direct sunlight you cant tell but i the shade its noticeable. My local paint store says they dont have the formula anymore in enanal and they now call it ralley red instead (base clear). The colour is very orangy compared to the orginal E5 red.
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