Wow! Just cool to see!
1968 Barracuda Euro Import Version
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- Marvin -
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I know, that there were also cars, which were only finished at AMAG, but this one has no 'American' Tag, no VIN plate on the dash - the VIN Number has no digit (letter) for the plant - normal for AMAG Cars - and - this is the point for me - all the glass was produced in the Netherlands - if it were a Hamtramck car, it should have Mopar glass.
Btw:
I have two Hamtramck cars built for export, partly finished in Austria - they have VIN plates on dash with complete numbers, buildsheets etc.
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This french tag You can find on all Mopars sold in France, whether imported from USA (Hamtramck), from the Netherlands (NEKAAF) or Switzerland (AMAG).
Here is a car built in Hamtramck, finished in Switzerland:
[SOLD] - 1973 Dodge Dart Sport 340 Automatic #'s Matching
Hi, my car has the VIN also on the Dash (driver side), another is stamped directly on the passenger fender (engine compartment).
Reading an article I found out that it wasn't really AMAG to assemble the cars, but "ASAG Automontage Schinznach AG"
70 anni fa AMAG iniziò ad assemblare automobili a Schinznach-Bad - AMAG Autoblog
I was reading in Italian, but the website gave me the option GER-FRA for language so I've translated in German for you:
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I know, that ASAG is correct, but AMAG (still in existence) is common - and only the plant itself was ASAG (100% daughter of AMAG) - this was an intern brand/name - and a tax avoiding thing - on the outside of the plant it says AMAG.
On dealerships, brochures and decals You will always read AMAG
...and You found it on the AMAG autoblog ;-)
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I knew you knew! ehehe, didn't won't to teach you anything about this topic of course
Thanks again!
Here's the VIN on the dash, the VIN stamped on the passenger side fender (engine compartment) and the missing tag near the other two.
I've removed that last year, cause nothing was written on it anymore.
Where exactly can I find the VIN on the core support? Where exactly on the Trunk lip? I know both on driver side, but where? Pics appreciated
I've removed that last year, cause nothing was written on it anymore.
Where exactly can I find the VIN on the core support? Where exactly on the Trunk lip? I know both on driver side, but where? Pics appreciated
- Marvin -
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...that is a typical NEKAAF (Rotterdam) VIN
It looks like Your car was built in Rotterdam and finished in Schinznach, and then exported to France....
A little bit confusing...
- Marvin -
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Do You know the name/dates of the first owner?
Maybe You can contact him/her....
The AMAG Schinznach archives are lost....
An Italian Mopar expert told me that he knew the first Italian owner of the car (who passed away years ago), from what he knew the car was originally white... but these are just words, so who knows.
I can't find the original Swiss owner of the plate ZH15750 on the Barracuda.
I did a research and this license plate owner now is a 40 years old woman who lives in Meilen 8706, probably nothing to do with the Barracuda's owner.
Anyway, in the 1971 Swiss movie "La Salamandre" you can see a (1968?) Barracuda ... with license plate Geneva 25605...
If It's 68 the grill is a little in the dark... maybe a 67.
I can't find the original Swiss owner of the plate ZH15750 on the Barracuda.
I did a research and this license plate owner now is a 40 years old woman who lives in Meilen 8706, probably nothing to do with the Barracuda's owner.
Anyway, in the 1971 Swiss movie "La Salamandre" you can see a (1968?) Barracuda ... with license plate Geneva 25605...
If It's 68 the grill is a little in the dark... maybe a 67.
Mattax
Just the facts, ma'am
Look somewhere on the lip that forms the drain and holds the seal.
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Interesting items
A. the alternator has a capacitor on the exterior. I assume that's on the field terminal?
B. Washer fluid tank is fully on top of the fender.
C. Master cylinder for drum brakes. Is it a drum brake car?
I ask because my impression was all of the US export RH drive cars got front disks.
I'd expect the same for the Swiss built cars.
A. I don't know...
B. Yes, it is, I don't know if it's the original... looks old for sure.
C. I have Front Disc Brakes, Rear Drums.
Do I have to remove the seal or is it visible without removing it? Thanks!
Mattax
Just the facts, ma'am
I dont recall. Someone here will know if its under the seal in '68.
'67 (mine) its the order number or something like that so is a little different at least in that regard.
Connections are like this.
Be careful with Power Out. That circuit is connected to the battery positive. It is energized at all times! You may find a plastic protector over it. A safety measure installed by the factory to reduce the chance of accidental grounding.
Marvin will probably know.
Someone probably replaced the master cylinder.
The disc brake version has a larger reservoir for the calipers. Unfortunately they have become somewhat scarce so parts store suppliers often substitute a drum brake version with the residual valve removed. It works but requires more frequent checking of fluid level.
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B. Washer fluid tank is fully on top of the fender.
Not original....most US cars in Europe got over their lifespan 'wrong' spare parts, the mechanics had often to 'improvise', because there existed - especially in the 8os and 90s - definitely no supply with original spare parts. This explains the Pontiac seats also....
Not original....most US cars in Europe got over their lifespan 'wrong' spare parts, the mechanics had often to 'improvise', because there existed - especially in the 8os and 90s - definitely no supply with original spare parts. This explains the Pontiac seats also....
If it’s not original (neither for the Euro production) I’ll change it.
mmm, can you link me the right one to buy? Thanks!
Mattax
Just the facts, ma'am
If you can't wait Kanter Auto (Boonton, NJ) has almost perfect replacements. Unfortunately they raised the price 100 USD since I bought one from them in 2017.
They sell on ebay under the name old.parts Here's the ebay link NOS Brake Master Cylinder 70 Plymouth Duster w/ Front Disc Brakes 1970 | eBay
What they are selling is the same casting, bore, piston, etc and is probably old stock Bendix replacement.
The original part number, at least for US/Canada, was p/n 2808600 for 1967 - 70.
Same master cylinder used for power and manual disk brakes those years.
The casting number for that MC will be 2225541.
There may be a faint A stamped in the front of the cast.
This replacement does not.
It also comes with studs installed. I can't recall if they are used with the booster. Its been a long time since I had the booster on a car. They're not used for manual brakes so I pressed them out.
For a restoration, this is one of the best researched articles.
http://www.moparts.org/Tech/MoparAction/Master_Cylinder.pdf
If you are not in a hurry, it may be possible to find one for less cost.
Search by both part number and casting number.
Also sometimes one might get lucky with a replacement from a store if its been sitting in a dusty corner somewhere.
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What about this?
More Information for CARDONE 101326
More Information for CARDONE 101326
Mattax
Just the facts, ma'am
Not likely.
Odds are what you will get will not match the photo. The image is what they used to sell under that part number.
Previous owner or mechanic probably did the same as you and bought from a big US mail order store. What is on your car now is very likely that very same Cardone master cylinder.
They've been substituting drum brake masters with the residual valve removed for disc brake cars since the 1990s. Took me around 20 years before I got the correct one. Not that I was looking all that time, I wasn't.
You may have better chance in EU than US as I don't think any '67 up export versions came with drum brakes.
Also I avoid Cardone for everything - they have zero quality control - and nor do they care. Some times there is no choice but when there is, they are at the bottom of the list.
Odds are what you will get will not match the photo. The image is what they used to sell under that part number.
Previous owner or mechanic probably did the same as you and bought from a big US mail order store. What is on your car now is very likely that very same Cardone master cylinder.
They've been substituting drum brake masters with the residual valve removed for disc brake cars since the 1990s. Took me around 20 years before I got the correct one. Not that I was looking all that time, I wasn't.
You may have better chance in EU than US as I don't think any '67 up export versions came with drum brakes.
Also I avoid Cardone for everything - they have zero quality control - and nor do they care. Some times there is no choice but when there is, they are at the bottom of the list.
Ok thanks! good advice...
anyway... is it really necessary to change this part? Do you think it's not working properly now?
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