440 Cooling Question “Champion Rad”

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Ok last question for today. Will the 69 A-Body rad slide into the opening of my 71.
The 69 and back rads have the inlet and outlet on the proper sides for my application. I believe the answer is yes but I need to hear it. Lol
 
Ok last question for today. Will the 69 A-Body rad slide into the opening of my 71.
The 69 and back rads have the inlet and outlet on the proper sides for my application. I believe the answer is yes but I need to hear it. Lol
Almost 100% sure. Almost. lol
 
Ok last question for today. Will the 69 A-Body rad slide into the opening of my 71.
The 69 and back rads have the inlet and outlet on the proper sides for my application. I believe the answer is yes but I need to hear it. Lol
Yes
 
I have this from my 72 A body 340, dm me if interested, I will take it to my radiator guy to make sure it is good.. it will slide right into your car and has the trans cooler built in

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Just lettin you know. You're gettin an overpriced polished turd, instead of a non polished reasonably priced one.
Do you have a link to a non polished semi turd that would same me a couple of bucks to look over.
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I have this from my 72 A body 340, dm me if interested, I will take it to my radiator guy to make sure it is good.. it will slide right into your car and has the trans cooler built in

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Thanks for the offer. The inlet and outlet are reversed for my application. Water pump is on the drivers side. Appreciate it though.
 
Thanks for the advice. I’ll talk to Cold Case on Monday. Also Be Cool. Two row large pipes. I’m curious on the no shroud with the fans. Could you elaborate?


Look at how Chrysler, Ford and GM designed a proper shroud.

Then look at the cookie sheet “shroud” (I use that term very loosely) you get with the electric fans.

Once you start getting your road speed up you can’t force all the air through the radiator and it becomes packed air.

Guys will argue this but I’ve seen it many times.

If air doesn’t go through the radiator it’s not cooling ****.

You NEED air flow.

You NEED coolant flow.

To that end you need the water pump to turn crank speed or faster. In the next couple of weeks I’m going to test an electric water pump verses a mechanical pump at 6% over driven verses the same mechanical pump at 20% over driven to see what the power loss on the dyno is.

Whatever it is it will not translate to the chassis because the biggest issue I will have is keeping the coolant at 160 degrees.

There isn’t an electric pump out there that I know of that is capable of doing that.
 
Look at how Chrysler, Ford and GM designed a proper shroud.

Then look at the cookie sheet “shroud” (I use that term very loosely) you get with the electric fans.

Once you start getting your road speed up you can’t force all the air through the radiator and it becomes packed air.

Guys will argue this but I’ve seen it many times.

If air doesn’t go through the radiator it’s not cooling ****.

You NEED air flow.

You NEED coolant flow.

To that end you need the water pump to turn crank speed or faster. In the next couple of weeks I’m going to test an electric water pump verses a mechanical pump at 6% over driven verses the same mechanical pump at 20% over driven to see what the power loss on the dyno is.

Whatever it is it will not translate to the chassis because the biggest issue I will have is keeping the coolant at 160 degrees.

There isn’t an electric pump out there that I know of that is capable of doing that.
I’d love to see that result. The Cold Case looks to have a more traditional fan shroud. The cookie sheet on the Champion is definitely that, a sheet.
 
I’m curious on the no shroud with the fans
The typical fan shroud that come with radiator electric fans typically is parallel to the core and very close to it. This creates a static pressure area between the shroud and the core. So little air moves in that area.

The opening in the shroud is in the 2 x 12"id. if you do the math you have a blockage of about 50% of the core so at speed you will tend to have overheating issues.
 
I've said it before on lots of threads and will repeat it here: if you're going the route of an aluminum radiator, look into a Champion Cooling Systems radiator. It's a different company than Champion Radiators. Speak with them and get their recommendation for your application. Good people! I have one that keeps my avatar's 408 happy down here in Florida.
Champion Cooling Systems
 
I've said it before on lots of threads and will repeat it here: if you're going the route of an aluminum radiator, look into a Champion Cooling Systems radiator. It's a different company than Champion Radiators. Speak with them and get their recommendation for your application. Good people! I have one that keeps my avatar's 408 happy down here in Florida.
Champion Cooling Systems they have

They have n
I've said it before on lots of threads and will repeat it here: if you're going the route of an aluminum radiator, look into a Champion Cooling Systems radiator. It's a different company than Champion Radiators. Speak with them and get their recommendation for your application. Good people! I have one that keeps my avatar's 408 happy down here in Florida.
Champion Cooling System

I've said it before on lots of threads and will repeat it here: if you're going the route of an aluminum radiator, look into a Champion Cooling Systems radiator. It's a different company than Champion Radiators. Speak with them and get their recommendation for your application. Good people! I have one that keeps my avatar's 408 happy down here in Florida.
Champion Cooling Systems


They have nice affordable rads. I’ll look into them. They have drop in packages. I’ll add them to the call list. I’m interested in the tube size and what the shroud looks like.
 
I've said it before on lots of threads and will repeat it here: if you're going the route of an aluminum radiator, look into a Champion Cooling Systems radiator. It's a different company than Champion Radiators. Speak with them and get their recommendation for your application. Good people! I have one that keeps my avatar's 408 happy down here in Florida.
Champion Cooling Systems they have

They have n
I've said it before on lots of threads and will repeat it here: if you're going the route of an aluminum radiator, look into a Champion Cooling Systems radiator. It's a different company than Champion Radiators. Speak with them and get their recommendation for your application. Good people! I have one that keeps my avatar's 408 happy down here in Florida.
Champion Cooling System

I've said it before on lots of threads and will repeat it here: if you're going the route of an aluminum radiator, look into a Champion Cooling Systems radiator. It's a different company than Champion Radiators. Speak with them and get their recommendation for your application. Good people! I have one that keeps my avatar's 408 happy down here in Florida.
Champion Cooling Systems


They have nice affordable rads. I’ll look into them. They have drop in packages. I’ll add them to the call list. I’m interested in the tube size and what the shroud looks like.
Champion Cooling Systems has a sale going on right now also:thumbsup:
I see that!

Eyeing this

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I'd bet they're probably all made in the same factory overseas.

Stay away from any fan/shroud combo any of these offshore radiator companies sell. If you need an electric fan, go with an OE unit like one from a Contour, HHR, Mark VIII, Taurus, T-bird, etc.
 
I'd bet they're probably all made in the same factory overseas.

Stay away from any fan/shroud combo any of these offshore radiator companies sell. If you need an electric fan, go with an OE unit like one from a Contour, HHR, Mark VIII, Taurus, T-bird, etc.

I can't see any photos on the site that shows the shroud. Champion looks absolutely called in. Cold Case looks to be near to farctory as one can get. Champion Cooling Systems doesn't have a photo of one with a shroud but do offer with a 16' fan. Be Cool is just triple the price and not in the cards. Going to try and ding them tomorrow and see if their open Boxing Day and they can send me a photo of the shroud. It looks like a nice bolt in Rad. I also have questions on tube size in the two row. no mention I can see on their site.
 
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