A Body V8 Swap question

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Yes, the distributor needs to be changed. LA318 roller motors ('86ish-'91) and LA360 rollers ('88-'92) all had computer-controlled distributors, no vacuum or mechanical advance systems. An appropriate earlier factory or aftermarket LA distributor is a necessary bolt-in.

"Just" a manifold and carb swap? Don't forget all the ancillary parts needed just for a carb swap: throttle linkage, kickdown linkage, accelerator pedal and cable (your /6 throttle is a pivoting rod type, incompatible with the V8 application), return springs and bracket, etc.

If your new motor came out of a truck, you'll need to swap to a passenger car pan/pickup/dipstick.
The transmission is going to be a whole 'nother ball of wax.
Your slant trans won't fit a V8, so a later 904 will be needed. Even a V8 trans from '65 or earlier won't fit the later LAs without a crank adapter. Then there's the linkage- '65s are a multiple cable controlled shift linkage, so for the later 904 to work you'll need to delete all that and install later ('66 and up)Steering column and linkage or factory '66 floor linkage.
And then there's the driveshaft- your '65 uses an output flange that mates to a ball and trunnion joint on the driveshaft; later trans. use a slip yoke arrangement. New driveshaft time.
And the speedo setup changes- you'll need a '66-'67 only speedo cable to mate a newer trans to your stock speedometer.

And Doug's. But neither fit with power steering.

'64-'66 A body V8 manifolds are all the same.
But they're not a direct fit to your proposed aluminum heads.

It's not so much if they'll fit the 360, it's the heads you're choosing. There will be interference that will need to be addressed.
Very nice right up. Yes some of that i knew but not all of it. Thanks for taking the time to write that. I took a snap shot of it. And will be looking into it.

As far as an early Carboratored 318 with a small block 904 trans, that would be a more direct fit (given the understanding of motor mounts, throttle and trans links, radiator). Biggest issue with that would be exhaust set up?
 
Balance can be an issue as 360s are externally balanced. It's easy to avoid that by getting all the donor parts from the original 5.9. Damper flexplate and converter. Even if it's a lock up OD converter grab it just so you can make sure your converter is the same style! A neutral internal balance 318 would avoid that. If it's an injected Magnum you may need an earlier timing cover with a fuel pump mount provision and a lot of .Magnum cams do not have a provision to mount a mechanical pump. There are work arounds the simplest being electric pump. But to me the biggest issue is the exhaust. A 273 drivers manifold is a real choker on a built SB. Can it handle 300 hp? Sure. You make 375/400 you need to spend the money on some quality headers. If you do that then sure go aluminum heads. As pointed out these cars can be light weight and with a quick SB it'll go! If you happen to find a 2wd van as a donor with an OD transmission grab that too. I think a 42RH (904 based) will probably require less fabrication than a bigger A518/46RH (727 based) but neither is going to fit without floorboard modification.
 
That is simply not true.

There are many examples of people putting large outlet (2-1/8") magnum manifolds in early A's as all as earlier 340 manifolds both of which are much better than the 273's. The 273 manifolds will choke the hell out of a magnum.

Sometimes some creativity is required but there are options.
Seen the magnum ones work. Curious to see what 340 stuff people have got to fit
 
Seen the magnum ones work. Curious to see what 340 stuff people have got to fit
I forget who did it here years ago, but the 340 units required some "creative" routing of the output on the drivers side. Users id started with a "T" can't recall the rest.
 
Balance can be an issue as 360s are externally balanced. It's easy to avoid that by getting all the donor parts from the original 5.9. Damper flexplate and converter. Even if it's a lock up OD converter grab it just so you can make sure your converter is the same style! A neutral internal balance 318 would avoid that. If it's an injected Magnum you may need an earlier timing cover with a fuel pump mount provision and a lot of .Magnum cams do not have a provision to mount a mechanical pump. There are work arounds the simplest being electric pump. But to me the biggest issue is the exhaust. A 273 drivers manifold is a real choker on a built SB. Can it handle 300 hp? Sure. You make 375/400 you need to spend the money on some quality headers. If you do that then sure go aluminum heads. As pointed out these cars can be light weight and with a quick SB it'll go! If you happen to find a 2wd van as a donor with an OD transmission grab that too. I think a 42RH (904 based) will probably require less fabrication than a bigger A518/46RH (727 based) but neither is going to fit without floorboard modification.
I'm so glad I came here and asked. After doing weeks of research, some of this i have learned, but it's the little things you all are mentioning that help eliminate the job stopping headaches
 
@Treblig was the user who did a lot of fitment testing. Search his stuff.

At the end of the day, as already mentioned, manifolds would not be great for AL heads but they might be usable until you can get some actual headers. the steering box and starter are the biggest routing obstacles other than the inner fender panels of course. You could also so fender well style fyi.
 
@Treblig was the user who did a lot of fitment testing. Search his stuff.

At the end of the day, as already mentioned, manifolds would not be great for AL heads but they might be usable until you can get some actual headers. the steering box and starter are the biggest routing obstacles other than the inner fender panels of course. You could also so fender well style fyi.
Got it. Looks like if i go Aluminum heads, I'll be going TTI headers. So that's something I'll have to think about.
 
i have a set of dougs headers (never used) , a v8 center link and v-8 mounts that i've been meaning to put up for sale... gathered the stuff incase i found a 64 valiant i wanted. i'm at the point that i really don't want to build another car anymore. the dart is more then enough to keep me busy.
 
i have a friend that used the 73 style 340 exhaust manifolds on his 66 cuda. they fit in there tightly.. need a good exhaust guy to run the head pipes.
 
i have a set of dougs headers (never used) , a v8 center link and v-8 mounts that i've been meaning to put up for sale... gathered the stuff incase i found a 64 valiant i wanted. i'm at the point that i really don't want to build another car anymore. the dart is more then enough to keep me busy.
Are the mounts for a 318 or 360? (I believe they are different)

What are you asking for them? (You can send an email directly to me if you don't want to post it here, but posting it here may help sell them faster).
[email protected]

Looks like you are in NJ?
 
Are the mounts for a 318 or 360? (I believe they are different)

What are you asking for them? (You can send an email directly to me if you don't want to post it here, but posting it here may help sell them faster).
[email protected]

Looks like you are in NJ?
I know someone that might also be interested.
 
Seen the magnum ones work. Curious to see what 340 stuff people have got to fit

I forget who did it here years ago, but the 340 units required some "creative" routing of the output on the drivers side. Users id started with a "T" can't recall the rest.
That would be @65 Cuda 340
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i have a friend that used the 73 style 340 exhaust manifolds on his 66 cuda. they fit in there tightly.. need a good exhaust guy to run the head pipes.

i have a friend that used the 73 style 340 exhaust manifolds on his 66 cuda. they fit in there tightly.. need a good exhaust guy to run the head pipes.
Ok thanks. I have a good exhaust bending tool. So I can run the pipe. I just need the manifolds/ headers to fit/clear to i can get the rest of the exhaust done.

Thank you for that information
 
Ok thanks. I have a good exhaust bending tool. So I can run the pipe. I just need the manifolds/ headers to fit/clear to i can get the rest of the exhaust done.

Thank you for that information

The lack of "space" in that area will preclude the user of standard bent pipe. You might need to use some tight turn mandrel bends and or pie cuts.
 
That seems doable for sure
Remember- as stated previously the 340 manifolds only fit with manual steering, and you said you have power steering..
Besides, for what 340 manifolds are going for lately; you'd be a good chunk of the way towards a set of headers.
 
Remember- as stated previously the 340 manifolds only fit with manual steering, and you said you have power steering..
Besides, for what 340 manifolds are going for lately; you'd be a good chunk of the way towards a set of headers.
Is there an early A solution that works with power steering?
 
Factory early A manifolds, have heard (but never seen) that a Borgeson power box will clear Doug's and Tti's...
Other than that, headman tight tubes will fit- but with a rework to one tube.
Removing stock exhaust manifolds

Ok, I was was assuming you were talking about things other than 273 but that's fair. Hadn't considered the borgeson, that's good to know. As said, basically where there is will, there is a way.
 
Remember- as stated previously the 340 manifolds only fit with manual steering, and you said you have power steering..
Besides, for what 340 manifolds are going for lately; you'd be a good chunk of the way towards a set of headers.
Ha, yeah I'm coming to that conclusion as well. Plus just getting a good set of headers for an "easier " install is worth the $$$ to headache ratio. IMO
 
Ok, I was was assuming you were talking about things other than 273 but that's fair. Hadn't considered the borgeson, that's good to know. As said, basically where there is will, there is a way.
100% true
 
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