easy...... eeeeaaaaassssyy........
It's stupid. I get sick of seeing the same people beat down their own frakkin brand. They just need to get out of the hobby and off this damned forum if that's how they feel. Easy my ***.
easy...... eeeeaaaaassssyy........
I’ve seen “new technology” and I’m less than impressed. That includes the complicated Coyote Ford pile of ****, the weak block of the LS and the highly inefficient hemi head.
I’ve said it before but it bears repeating. I’m a life long N/A guy. None of the above is spectacular without some power adder. I’m following a turbo build here on FABO. Ritter block (far FAR a better than any of the OE blocks above) and I forget the heads. Let’s see what that does.
Also, airflow isn’t the end all of making power.
There no replacement for displacement, it costs the same to build a 360. You can bla bla bla all you want but a 360 core is where I would start.
Well, an acquaintance of mine had a 502 that he built, but he went overboard on lightening the the internal components, and it didnt last long. Before that, he had a 468 that ran really well, high 9s in a street driven/show quality demon, cover car on MoparMuscle.What size small block do I need?
The biggest size they come in
Sing it brother!Yep. DCR is at the bottom of my list for things to consider. It’s a useless number. I will be checking cranking compression numbers so I can develop a data base and see if any patterns develop.
And once again, it is shown, use the best available head you can afford.That depends. Cam timing has as much or more effect on RPM than air flow does. When I switched from W2 to W5 heads, I kept the shift RPM the same but with the W5 heads I used 14 degrees LESS duration on the intake side and 18 degrees LESS duration on the exhaust side.
Still made power at the same RPM. It made more HP but the RPM a curve was the same.
I was sayin your a grump old fart...
And build what you got. Like most of the non 318 haters, we all have 318s, 340s and 360s. I know I want different things from each so they are build different.
Someone just likes standing on hating on small cubes.
****, I want to build a destroked 340 for T/A rules just for ***** and giggles to see how that runs in my Duster...
In 5.0 form, it is.
'92 5.2 had more HP/TQ than the '92 5.0. Weight, gearing all equal, the 5.2 wins.In 5.0 form, it is.
And making 1800 with a 6.0, displacement matters.I hate giving ppl the red x and out of respect to you im not going to but j disagree with you. The whole bigger is better thing is gone the replacement for displacement is airflow!! Look at all these 5.3 ls engines making 1400 hp with turbos and stock bottom ends! The 5.3 is only 9 CI bigger than a 318 and they are making crazy numbers with them simply with boost! The same can be done with 318s! Granted you can do the same to the bigger ci engines and get similar results but my point is the small engines can get there too. Its more about tuning and efficiency than the biggest engines you can stuff in your car. @318willrun has taught us all that.
I'm not unfamiliar with small displacement engines, I built the 30 over 289 for my 64 Fairlane, it made 455hp and 445 ftlbs of torque NA. Now I could have bought a 362 from Ford that makes 500hp for less money than I have in the 289 but in would not have been a 289. So I understand a loyalty to one particular engine, the car was a 289 so I built the same, but if I was just building a mild to stock daily driver I'd build a 360.'92 5.2 had more HP/TQ than the '92 5.0. Weight, gearing all equal, the 5.2 wins.
Mopar guy throws the 5.2 in the sea. Ford guy builds the 5.0 and goes 11's on the street. Ford guy wins round 2 (see round 1 in post 64)
The Ferd 302 guyz are noth'n like us Mopar guyz. They love their fox body 5.0's. So they build them. And they go fast. Some go really fast. Some go super doper fast. 5.0's work GREAT for the Ferd guyz, but 5.2 isn't nearly enough for the Mopar guyz. I guess an old push rod 302 is just superior than the old push rod 318. Ford in for the Win in round one ! Next round coming up ...... 5.9 vs 5.8 LOL
Does the 5.0 have a big brother they can build, like the 360 is to the 318?'92 5.2 had more HP/TQ than the '92 5.0. Weight, gearing all equal, the 5.2 wins.
Mopar guy throws the 5.2 in the sea. Ford guy builds the 5.0 and goes 11's on the street. Ford guy wins round 2 (see round 1 in post 64)
5.8 351 cubesDoes the 5.0 have a big brother they can build, like the 360 is to the 318?
Or are they forced to "make due" ?
i had one of those in a bronco5.8 351 cubes
Can't really compare a Cleveland to a Windsor thoughThe 351 Cleveland was a different beast when tricked out.
347 stroker kits for the lowdeck 302 are common, 365 short blocks are available in the aftermarket. 347 is the most practical in the 302 deck height. So, because of the much higher deck of the 318, stroker kits for 318s are 50 cu in bigger.Does the 5.0 have a big brother they can build, like the 360 is to the 318?
Or are they forced to "make due" ?
I dont mean to be argumentative, but please tell me about the under 3200 lb mopar you could get a 318 in, in 1992?'92 5.2 had more HP/TQ than the '92 5.0. Weight, gearing all equal, the 5.2 wins.
Mopar guy throws the 5.2 in the sea. Ford guy builds the 5.0 and goes 11's on the street. Ford guy wins round 2 (see round 1 in post 64)
On another note… transmissions…..
Do the all shift at the exact same point?
Just a 904 vs 727, year vs year bracket of discussion please.
I wanna employ the K.I.S.S method here thanks.