Jarlaxle
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What a pile.
Hey, it's a Ford:
www.millionmilevan.com
There's a dude in Natick, MA who has an Econoline (2003-2007, from the front end) with 523,000 miles.
Dear Automakers, Build something to last more that 60k miles.
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What a pile.
Hey, it's a Ford:
www.millionmilevan.com
There's a dude in Natick, MA who has an Econoline (2003-2007, from the front end) with 523,000 miles.
Update on this- It looks like Toyota is recalling over 600,000 Toyota Tacoma's because of rusty and BREAKING springs. And to think less than a year ago, they had never heard of such a thing!
nothingbutdarts
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So is your check in the mail?
ramenth
Gratis persona
I don't care what it is.
Wanna know why dealerships have service departments? Because even the new s*** breaks, no matter what it is.
And my outlook on twisting a wrench these days is that if I don't care if it's a brand new Ferrari. If I have to turn a wrench on it, then it's a piece of s***.
Wanna know why dealerships have service departments? Because even the new s*** breaks, no matter what it is.
And my outlook on twisting a wrench these days is that if I don't care if it's a brand new Ferrari. If I have to turn a wrench on it, then it's a piece of s***.
Lest we forget - among the worst of the bunch for rusting out, and other various recalls was the Chrysler "F" bodies.
No manufacturer is immune, no manufacturer is innocent, and no manufacturer is flawless, and the year of manufacture has little to do with it.
No manufacturer is immune, no manufacturer is innocent, and no manufacturer is flawless, and the year of manufacture has little to do with it.
dusterny
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Chrysler's OD transmissions in mini vans and cars failed at 60/70k like clockwork for years without them fixing them. I walked out of the shop with a vow never to return as they chuckled. I drove Dusters, Chryslers, Roadrunners, Minivans and was a return customer until they screwed me too many times. I like the old stuff but nothing new.
whitepunkonnitro
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Newest of 9 cars I own is a 1973. All A, B and C Body Mopar. I've got enough spares to keep the fleet rolling until the sun explodes. All of my cars INCREASE in value every year. They're all a complete joy to work on.
Simple advice...When it comes to cars, turn your back completely on the 21st century and life gets very very good.
Simple advice...When it comes to cars, turn your back completely on the 21st century and life gets very very good.
sireland67
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X2 my grandfather bought a new Aspen, the dealer replaced both front fenders before it was 2 years old.
My uncle bought a 70 Duster new, at 40,000 miles and the car was 4 years old he junked it because one leaf spring went thru the trunk.
mikedevore
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I was a service writer @ Toyota.
Number 1 complaint on the manual or auto trans Tacoma was axle wrap.
You notice it more with the automatic trucks, when you are coming to a stoplight & release
the brake slightly, it felt like someone had bumped into you.
As far as I know, Toyota never came up with a repair for it.
They keep going after the driveshaft slip spline, citing not enough lubricate.
The problem really magnified when you put big tires & wheels on.
Number 1 complaint on the manual or auto trans Tacoma was axle wrap.
You notice it more with the automatic trucks, when you are coming to a stoplight & release
the brake slightly, it felt like someone had bumped into you.
As far as I know, Toyota never came up with a repair for it.
They keep going after the driveshaft slip spline, citing not enough lubricate.
The problem really magnified when you put big tires & wheels on.
That's not unique to Toyota. I had that same problem in a B200 Dodge Van, with a 727, and again in a Chevy pick up with an auto 4 speed. Both times it was the transmission.
Both times it was fixed with an additive to the trans fluid.
stroked340
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Lol...got that right they're not called "Toyletes" for nothing..
ramenth
Gratis persona
You're forgetting the Chrysler products of the late '50's. They should have come with warning that said, "don't get wet. At all. No crying on it, no washing it, no leaving it in the rain, no driving through puddles. And, DON'T DRIVE IT IN THE WINTER!"
74Dusted
Stock Piler of 340's
Just be glad you don't own a Ford Truck.
One of the most infamous problems with them (And it still hasn't been corrected/redesigned) is the crappy rear shackles and hangers.
I lost count years ago of how many shackles and hangers I had to replace on Rangers, Explorers, F150/250/350's, E150/250/350, etc. Sometimes they break off and wedge into the frame...Sometimes they break and the leaf spring and shackle punch a hole through the floor/bed :wack:
Followed by extremely weak leaf springs. Lost count on how many Fords that I've seen with every single leaf in both packs busted in half. They usually break in half right at the Center Pin. A few of em were on trucks that never hauled anything and were only driven on the street.
One of the most infamous problems with them (And it still hasn't been corrected/redesigned) is the crappy rear shackles and hangers.
I lost count years ago of how many shackles and hangers I had to replace on Rangers, Explorers, F150/250/350's, E150/250/350, etc. Sometimes they break off and wedge into the frame...Sometimes they break and the leaf spring and shackle punch a hole through the floor/bed :wack:
Followed by extremely weak leaf springs. Lost count on how many Fords that I've seen with every single leaf in both packs busted in half. They usually break in half right at the Center Pin. A few of em were on trucks that never hauled anything and were only driven on the street.
stroked340
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Really..there's no other brand of truck I'd ever own...but your right about the shackles breaking.. had to replace 1 spring and both shackles on my '01(took about 20 minutes,no big deal) still going strong 170k plus..my 2010 F150 supercrew is everything and more then I could expect out of a truck..
grassy
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Rule of thumb.. japs cannot make good trucks..the american three cannot make good cars..I know there are exceptions..but this is a general rule..
A friend of mine owned a Toyota 1/4 ton.. he was working on his 3rd engine at 80K miles..he sold it as fast as he could..
When we raced mx, our team owner bought a couple of tundras..go rid of them for rams within 6 months..just too hard on gas..
A friend of mine owned a Toyota 1/4 ton.. he was working on his 3rd engine at 80K miles..he sold it as fast as he could..
When we raced mx, our team owner bought a couple of tundras..go rid of them for rams within 6 months..just too hard on gas..
mikedevore
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Good & bad in every manufacture.
I only get upset when a manufacture sweeps a problem under the rug.
I don't know why there is not a major uproar over the headlight lens that fog over on every manufacture out there.
That to me is one of the biggest safety issues of all time.
I only get upset when a manufacture sweeps a problem under the rug.
I don't know why there is not a major uproar over the headlight lens that fog over on every manufacture out there.
That to me is one of the biggest safety issues of all time.
Charrlie_S
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Maybe now. I have a 86 Toyota 1 ton PU (bought new), that I use to haul my trailer and race car. Has 391,000 miles on it, and never had the head off. 22re 4cyl motor, 5 speed, single rear wheel. I have been on the scales at 9,980 lbs total gross weight and get 18-19 mpg at that weight. Get 25-27 mpg empty. Getting long in the tooth, now, but will be making a 2,000 mile trip next week from Florida to Maryland and back, by way of Tn, hauling the race car.
Replaced a couple of timing sets, two clutches, Trans at 250,000 miles, one radiator, tie rods ends, idler arm, one set of rear wheel bearings, several rebuilt alternators and starters. Of course brake pads, tires, "tune up" parts, and thats about it. It still has the original ball joints, calipers/cylinders, drums/rotors, even shocks.
I cannot find a comparable vehicle, today.
grassy
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yup...exception..you won't get that in a tundra...
One of the problems with the big three is built in obsolescence ..and the thought that we change cars every 3 years.. Actual fact is now the average time you own your car is a little over 9 years..
I am in the same boat..looking for a bigger truck because my ram isn't big enough..
Charrlie_S
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Agree. I can't find it in ANY new truck.
Jarlaxle
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Biggest reason was that people topped them off with Dexron. The A604 was one of the first transaxles (might be THE first) to require 7176 fluid. Half a pint of Dexron would kill one.
I saw livery Caravans with 200K on never-rebuilt 604's! (That's about when they went out...rebuilt, they'd go another 150K, at which point the van was usually beat enough to scrap.) Anything that did NOT use D-III ATF actually had the trans dipstick tagged with the appropriate fluid (ATF+, Mercon V, Dexron VI, 10W-30).
Jarlaxle
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I wonder if the old Super Stock trick of clamping the front of the leaf pack might help...
Toyota is...or WAS...pretty good about warranty fixes. Offhand, they did many head gaskets, top-end rebuilds, and even replaced ENGINES in trucks with the 3.0 V6. I talked to a dude who uses an old Toyota U-Haul as a delivery truck: his lifted a head gasket, he called the dealer. He didn't expect much, but figured he might get them to get him the parts at-cost or something. They told him to bring it in...when he said he couldn't drive it, they sent a wrecker (on their dime). The service guy delivered the expected diagnosis: both head gaskets popped. Then, the service manager said Toyota was still fixing them!
They said it would be ready in a couple days...they called him with bad news: both heads were cracked. It would be another 2 days...because the NEW (not rebuilt) heads had to be shipped from California. They also replaced the A/C compressor (also with a NEW one).
His total cost for a complete top-end job on the motor, a new water pump, an A/C compressor, a recharge, and new hoses? $450!
Oh, yeah: the truck had close to 240,000 miles! (Still going, it's over 300K now.)
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