drug poll cuz the other thread wont work..

[HotLines]

California's voters ( ostensibly not the same idiots whom voted Brown back in office !! ) obviously didn't want for legalised marijuana ;

Actually from what I've heard is that The RJ Reynolds hasn't finished buying up land in NorCal and so the law would just be postponed before the elections through political ads in Latino and African American neighborhoods showing its bad points. The way I look at any government is that anything can be fixed and it certainly shows any number of ways.
Oregon was the first state to decriminalize marijuana in 1978 and since we have moved to medical marijuana, we no longer have resistance from the U.S. government for any number of our laws including the right to die with dignity act which the government sent Ashcroft here during the Bush administration to fight this in court and lost twice.

 

[toolmanmike]

Let me preface my reply and opinion by stating the following :

I've long had lower back problems ( spinal , primarily ) as well as muscle and nerve issues , and being involved in 3 car wrecks ( none of which were my fault ) has only compounded these problems ; the last wreck was 4 years ago ( I was sitting pass-side in my dad's car when the accelerator stuck-open ; hit a light pole at 50 mph ... on the side I was sitting on ! ) .

I used to go to " second-party pharmacists " in order to get Norco , Vicodin , Lortab , Percodan , Percocet , et al. , as I didn't have health insurance .
Finally , just over 1 year ago , I started seeing a Pain Management Specialist .
He wrote a prescription for 90 ( thirty-day supply ) Norco ; at last , a legal , legitimate prescription !

I piggy back my still-three-a-day-dosage with various N.S.A.I.D.S. ( Aspirin , et al. ) , as those help with the swelling .
Tylenol is 100% worthless to me ( in-so-far-as it doesn't do **** for swelling ) ; however , getting a prescription for straight-up opiates / opioids is a 'pain' , as those are Schedule II , and require a 'Triplicate Prescription '.

My back is so horribly tweaked ; pinched nerves , spine that's curved in and to the right side ( poor posture is a big part of this ) , potentially herniated discs in my neck and back , and so on .

My doctor wanted to put me on "Limited Work Duties" , to which I declined .
I work in a warehouse ( auto parts ) as well as deliveries . Combined with a skeleton crew , the workload doesn't truly permit for any real restrictions ; henceforth , my decision to decline to work limitations orders .

Nevertheless , in my opinion , Opiates work great .
Certainly , like everything , they have their downsides .

Marijuana ?
I wish I could partake . However , it gives me panic attacks and anxiety , regardless of its strain .
If it weren't for those damned attacks , I'd certainly like to use it .

Keep in mind :
Marijuana is still a Schedule I federally .
Laws that states' voters pass don't mean **** if you're stopped by Border Patrol , et al ., as those are federal agents .

California's voters ( ostensibly not the same idiots whom voted Brown back in office !! ) obviously didn't want for legalised marijuana ; and that's a disservice in my mind .
Even though I can't enjoy marijuana , I still recognise its medical benefits .

I only wish that things such as codeine cough syrup and low-dose codeine analgesics ( 10mg or less ) were available without a prescription !!
Dextromethorphan is JUNK . It's fully-synthetic codeine , and is 100% worthless .

So , yeah ... opiates get my vote , as does 'medical' marijuana .:-D

Get copies of your x-rays and see a chiropractor. They may be able to help.

 

[needsaresto]

Sounds like the vast majority of folks have either tried it or approve. And yes MS really sucks. Think about that before lecturing me on something you have zero clue about. My CT scan showed innumerable lesions. The radiologist gave up counting,there was just too many.

Lesions are the result of MS stripping the myelin coating from my nerves. The more active the disease the more lesions you have. I kinda look at this aspect of my disease as an indicator of how long I have before my body fails me. It's part of why Im driving my help post a little harder than most. I have this artificial time limit being imposed on me by MS.

 

[needsaresto]

are people this stupid? are we serious here? there are more important things in life to gravitate to, other than methods to deny reality and limit your abilities. sorry to bust your balls here but, WTF?

You say with respect,so where is that? Your stsaement does not take my situation into consideration at all.

My abilties are already severly limited by MS. Pain and fatigue often drive me back under a blanket,where I do nothing all day.

That is my reality. I dont deny it,theres no escaping it at all. There is no relief,no breaks. no relapses and no new meds in 10 years. All I can say here is wake up.

You cant bust my balls over this. All I want is some relief from constant severe pain so **** off.

 

[1wild&crazyguy]

To any and all who are bashing the OP.....


stfu and stay out of this thread if it bothers you.

 

[HotLines]

Isn't is something when one disagrees on a subject, makes a moron of himself replying with a negative statement yet doesn't have the commonsense to change the frigging channel. If someone is so against something like this, it usually means they do not know the difference between a flower, an herb or a drug.

 

[needsaresto]

Yup. I mostly disagree with his uneducated and IGNORANT opinion. Yes drugs can be dangerous. So is a city bus.

 

[megajoltman]

needsaresto if you want to use it for pain relief and tension remover it works best ingesting it like in a cannabis butter.Instead of smoking pot the CB is put into cake, cookie, brownie, or other foods, and are consumed for recreational or medicinal purposes. I have a few friends who have there medical marijuana card and use it that way to help with the pain of battling cancer and another who has (had) bad seizures.

 

[64X2]

First any chronic illness is bad no matter what it is. Second MS is a very debilitating illness, and wish you positive healing energy that you may find some relief. Third the people running the government have lost their collective minds,everybody should have health care and it provide what ever you need to make you better in what ever way is available. Fourth Alcohol, and Cigarettes are legal and those two substances alone kill more people than you can shake a stick at. Fifth why is a silly plant that has been around longer than man has, still illegal, maybe if those politicians in Washington smoked some they could stop fighting each other and straighten this country out......


Anyway grow the weed and smoke it, the marijuana has proven itself time and time again.....cancer patients that use medical marijuana swear by it to help with pain, nausea and appetite.

I don't believe or put a lot of faith in man made painkillers..... very harmful to the body...

again I wish you positive energy .......

 

[mullinax95]

Well I know some of you are not happy with the thread but going back a serious note........

If I was in chronic pain I would choose the marijuana route and if that wasn't working it would be the doctor prescribed narcotics.

 

[RustyRatRod]

Yall, lets at least try to show some sympathy towards those with medical issues. You may be young and in good health now, but one day that may change. Remember, crap you say or do to others does have a tendancy to come back around. My mother suffered needlessly from cancer for seven years. To this day, I think some mary jane couldda made her more comfortable, but it was against the law, so she wouldn't even consider it. Hay, it's a personal decision. Let those who chose to do so, make that decision in the privacy of their own homes. It's not as if anything anyone does in their homes has any affect on you. If it helps someone deal with pain a little better, I say suck the bottom of a bong out. I deal with pain daily myself, but I don't choose to go that route. I did enough drugs by personal choice when I was a stupid kid. I'd probably get in trouble somehow, cause I'm still too stupid to deal with it. Yall lighten up.

 

[justin hughes]

I should be the last one to talk since im the first one to take a fistful of ibuprofen for my knee pain and hangovers, but i have done some looking into the matter and really feel like there might be something to be said by the all natural route. the FDA cant get their claws into alot of alot of these herbal companies therfore you wont see advertising by doctors or t.v. my suggestion would be do find a store that sells mainly herbal remedies and just talk to them and see if they can point you in a new direction.hopefully you will find what your looking for. good luck.

 

[waggin]

after reading the other thread I'd say you misinterpreted the sentence "let's have fun here" I could be wrong but see the first posting by grinder which is a good example of "let's have fun here" that's trully some funny stuff....way to go grinder :cheers: My dad's girlfriend suffers terribly from M S. I think i'll see what these threads are all about...when i seen the thread labeled Druggzz I never looked at it.now I have and I was wrong to judge that book by it's cover.you could try score you a Lil' bag and try it and see how it goes for the pain,or mentally dealing with the pain...

Look slant, you don't know me or a damn thing about me nor do you know what I go through. If you had BOTHERED to look up the two? three? four? threads that the OP has started, you would have seen that in at least one of them he was asking us to tell us about the drugs we have mixed, how high we got, and "have fun with it."

Try this one right here:

http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=121810

If you want to find "light" in MS, do so. DO NOT take light in things like "having fun with drugs" which is what the underlying thread is all about


Once again, I suggest you search and read what the OP has been posting here, today on this subject. Giggling around about throwing drugs in a pot is NOT funny.

 

[waggin]

I went only to the original post to see what it had in mind about having fun with it,as you will notice a lot of folk's here can have fun with two spoons and a toothpick,not to mention their ability to make us laugh so hard that we fall out of our chairs giggling like Lil' kid's...try not to take it the wrong way and I hope that this place doesn't get filled up with theads that are about drugs for any other reason than actual need of a better opinion of how to deal with pain. and no I don't wanna try you,ligten up a bit please.......Wagg's

No, I'm not. Wanna try me?

By the way, I noticed you have still not taken the time to read the other threads posted on this very disturbing topic, and having read some of the replies, it appears that I'm not the only one who is concerned with "having fun" with drugs.

 

[RustyRatRod]

No, I'm not. Wanna try me?

Wanna try you? What's that mean? You mean like a fight? Yeah, I'll try you. I been in so many, I forgot what that kinda pain feels like. I'll grab any bull by the horns any day of the week. I'll tell you this. You might kick my ***, but you ain't gonna get no cherry. You're gonna actually have to DO IT. It's been done before but not much. I see you're in Idaho. what say we meet half way, I kick your *** and you can drive your bleedin *** back home? Moreover, you probably mean try you out sexually, in which case, my barn door don't swing like that. Geez man, lighten up already.

 

[needsaresto]

OK I meant have fun with the thread,make us laugh. Geez guys...cmon have a heart and just make this a fun thread!

I really appreciate info so far,there are diamonds amongst the dross here.

SS,no need to kill anyone just yet Bud. A fight just leaves both parties with bitter feelings.I know i've been in enough myself during my foolish youth.

Thw whole point to the thread is to relate your experience with painkillers,over the counter or otherwise. I totally agree about the over reaction to mj by societies established powers that be. Fear of something that you cant control is a normal reaction of govt. If everyone is allowed to grow mj in thier back yard,we'll have people hugging!!! Cant have that,would never convince anyone to join the military,kinda ruins the plans for world domination.

 

[LH23H2R]

If his Doctor signs the Medicinal use of marijuana papers then it is legal for him to use it for pain relief so......

I've read your replies to other posts in this thread , and I like what I've seen in them 8) .

However , I must assert that even if individual states recognise medicinal marijuana , it's still a Schedule I on a federal level : illegal .

Ever wonder why certain drugs are illegal ? The prosaic truth is this : if certain "ethnic" types ( read : black folks ) used it ( marijuana , cocaine and ****** ) , then it certainly must be bad !
Typical stupid *** , ignorant , fear mongering mentality of 'our' government at that time .

 

[Frankie]

I voted for sex. It's hard to find a painful condition that endorphins won't alleviate. :sign10:

 

[waggin]

Simmer down....I put my two cent's two it so don't go stirrin the pot..ya'll get along now anybody involved in fighting or flaming is gonna hear more from me about it.........Wagg's

Wanna try you? What's that mean? You mean like a fight? Yeah, I'll try you. I been in so many, I forgot what that kinda pain feels like. I'll grab any bull by the horns any day of the week. I'll tell you this. You might kick my ***, but you ain't gonna get no cherry. You're gonna actually have to DO IT. It's been done before but not much. I see you're in Idaho. what say we meet half way, I kick your *** and you can drive your bleedin *** back home? Moreover, you probably mean try you out sexually, in which case, my barn door don't swing like that. Geez man, lighten up already.

 

[RustyRatRod]

Simmer down....I put my two cent's two it so don't go stirrin the pot..ya'll get along now anybody involved in fighting or flaming is gonna hear more from me about it.........Wagg's

It was humor.

 

[needsaresto]

I've read your replies to other posts in this thread , and I like what I've seen in them 8) .

However , I must assert that even if individual states recognise medicinal marijuana , it's still a Schedule I on a federal level : illegal .

Ever wonder why certain drugs are illegal ? The prosaic truth is this : if certain "ethnic" types ( read : black folks ) used it ( marijuana , cocaine and ****** ) , then it certainly must be bad !
Typical stupid *** , ignorant , fear mongering mentality of 'our' government at that time .

Yup the key word in this is FEAR. Has anyone seen reefer madness? A silly movie about a bunch of stoned teenagers going nuts.Totally stupid,but this was the accepted view od establishment at the time. Smoke pot and you'll go nuts,kill everyone. Fact is nothing could be further from the truth. The govt at the time chose to legalize alcohol and criminalise pot. Why? Probably due to economics.It was the crash of the 30's.They could make a ton of money from taxes and booze,but cant make anything if people can grow it in thier own back yard.

I've seen MANY people go nuts,weep uncontrollably,assault people etc when thier drunk. Stoned folks usually are just fine,seem to retain thier functionality and thinking,remain calm and relaxed. I'd much rather a stoned guy behind the wheel than a drunk guy given my personal experiences.

My own opinion of pot is pro. I know a good deal of hippies etc around here. Lovely, calm, reasonable and deep thinkers.I get along very well with them. Very creative as well! Several musician friends and artists I know seem to have heightened talents when stoned.

 

[GTSCowboy]

needsaresto, I just read this thread for the first time...It hits home...my dad has MS and I've watched what it can do...to my dad and my family I say grow and smoke your own...it really helped my dad calm down,eat and sleep...PM me if ya need to talk

 

[ElFin]

Reading this has brightened up a cold, dark Monday.

 

[BorninaMopar]

First of all; Scientists, doctors and freakin' morons that drive drunk have proved that alcohol is far worse and more destructive than herion, cocaine and for that fact harmless weed. I've smoked weed for more that 25 years and it has not hampered me or my lifestyle in anyway. I have a beautiful home, beautiful family, some really nice cars and trucks, some great friends, and have excelled at the same trade for thirty years.
So, I say, smoke it if ya got it. All I know is that I work as a lineman and a few hits of some good mota after work takes my back pain away and relaxes me. I vote for good weed.

 

[RustyRatRod]

Yeah nuthin wrong with you. How many times you gonna say it?? LMAOROTF.