71beater
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"Camfather" was Ed Iskenderian...
Sage advice,RRR.... And one of the reasons ,he's here. As far as the old days,agreed. Everything advertised,had .450,60,70" lift. Anything else cost money,lol. Seen a couple of the old TQ20 grinds,in 4x4 Chevs. Annilated the tires,tuned right. Heard more good,than bad.The good:
I like Erson because a lot of their stuff is what I consider old school grinds. Lazy ramps, slow lift rates, low lift.....just right for an everyday street machine. Not everything needs the fastest and most aggressive rates of lift. Who wants a lot of valve train noise from a hydraulic grind? Not me.
Some bad:
I remember when we had a Super Shops years ago in Macon, those guys would try to sell those cams with like .425 lift and 240 @ .050. lol Then when we would say something about the low lift, they would come back and try to sell the Erson 1.6 rockers. lol I don't know.....when everybody else's lift with the same duration was .500 or more, it just seemed like Erson was kinda fallin behind. Maybe it was just that the Stupid Shops as we called um only carried one particular line. I know, one minute I talk about likin the low lift (and I do) and the next complain about it. lol I even went through the Erson master catalog back then and they all seemed low on lift. That's a good thing when you want it, but when you don't, it's nice to have alternatives.
More bad. You asked:
I have tried for three solid years to get Erson tech on the phone. Never gotten one single answer. I am not the only one, either. Course, now since I am not building a slant six anymore, I don't need to call Erson.
Suggestion:
Seems to me Erson is kinda a "underdog" or almost unknown cam grinder. Yall need more advertisement. I see Comp, Crane, Isky, Lunati and on and on but rarely see Erson ads anywhere, and it ain't like I got turnip leaves stickin outta my *** where the internet's concerned. lol
All in all, I think yall have good products. I gotta 360 I am building for a member here and guess what? I actually SOUGHT OUT a 30 year old Erson hydraulic grind just for his build. It's a perfect match.
Lastly, since you asked a bunch of Mopar people what THEY want, I tell you what you do. Go look at the Mopar cams available on the Hughes Engines site and on the Howards Cams site. Pay particular attention to the amount of lift PER duration. You'll see they grind a ton of lift for a given duration taking advantage of Mopar's whopper john .903 lifter diameter. Lotsa companies ain't doin that. Look at Comp. Same cookie cutter cams as everybody else, UNLESS you go with like their Purple Plus grinds and they ain't very many.
The good:
I like Erson because a lot of their stuff is what I consider old school grinds. Lazy ramps, slow lift rates, low lift.....just right for an everyday street machine. Not everything needs the fastest and most aggressive rates of lift. Who wants a lot of valve train noise from a hydraulic grind? Not me.
Some bad:
I remember when we had a Super Shops years ago in Macon, those guys would try to sell those cams with like .425 lift and 240 @ .050. lol Then when we would say something about the low lift, they would come back and try to sell the Erson 1.6 rockers. lol I don't know.....when everybody else's lift with the same duration was .500 or more, it just seemed like Erson was kinda fallin behind. Maybe it was just that the Stupid Shops as we called um only carried one particular line. I know, one minute I talk about likin the low lift (and I do) and the next complain about it. lol I even went through the Erson master catalog back then and they all seemed low on lift. That's a good thing when you want it, but when you don't, it's nice to have alternatives.
More bad. You asked:
I have tried for three solid years to get Erson tech on the phone. Never gotten one single answer. I am not the only one, either. Course, now since I am not building a slant six anymore, I don't need to call Erson.
Suggestion:
Seems to me Erson is kinda a "underdog" or almost unknown cam grinder. Yall need more advertisement. I see Comp, Crane, Isky, Lunati and on and on but rarely see Erson ads anywhere, and it ain't like I got turnip leaves stickin outta my *** where the internet's concerned. lol
All in all, I think yall have good products. I gotta 360 I am building for a member here and guess what? I actually SOUGHT OUT a 30 year old Erson hydraulic grind just for his build. It's a perfect match.
Lastly, since you asked a bunch of Mopar people what THEY want, I tell you what you do. Go look at the Mopar cams available on the Hughes Engines site and on the Howards Cams site. Pay particular attention to the amount of lift PER duration. You'll see they grind a ton of lift for a given duration taking advantage of Mopar's whopper john .903 lifter diameter. Lotsa companies ain't doin that. Look at Comp. Same cookie cutter cams as everybody else, UNLESS you go with like their Purple Plus grinds and they ain't very many.
Well I wanna make it CLEAR, I am an Erson advocate. Always have been. I LIKE the fact that you offer lazy ramps. Not everybody does anymore. And no matter how blue you talk your face into, you cannot tell people they do not always need the fastest rates of lift. It's just not necessary all the time. In fact, for an everyday street engine, I would endeavor to find a good old school grind any day. So, please don't stop offering those. Hard to beat a good, low lift long duration cam on the street for longevity.
I understand. We still kept all the original Sig Erson profiles, and still produce a lot of the original cams from back the 70s and 80s. We took the manufacturing facility over two and a half years ago and are trying to bring Erson back to life. Thanks for your support.
Russ
I understand. We still kept all the original Sig Erson profiles, and still produce a lot of the original cams from back the 70s and 80s. We took the manufacturing facility over two and a half years ago and are trying to bring Erson back to life. Thanks for your support.
Russ
That's good news... I was curious. Are you going internet only, or willing to get back into the retail world,as things happen? As a retail parts guy,options & opportunities, help......
That is some good news. Lots of businesses are falling by the way side nowadays. It's good to see yall are trying to stay around. Keep us posted please.
Thank you Erson. I understand you also do the Slant Six cams as alot of guys over on SlantSix.org are using them.
I love my Erson cam. I have an Erson E-4 in my 273, 4-V, Formula S, 67 Barracuda converitble. Some punk in a rice-grinder with one of those exhaust pipes that make it sound like a chainsaw thought he was going to beat me to the highway entrance ramp the other day......... I think not!!!
With all this having been said, how about a bit of history? I was under the impression that the Company went down along with Super Shops when they closed their doors. Is the Erson Family still in ownership/involved with the company?
Bob
Called and talked to Eric today and we talked about what cam I need. He is going to make one for m NSS 470 Dart. Nice guy and great to talk to.