Ford 272 C.I. runs low 11's. Why do Mopar guys need 408's?
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33IMP
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You can become moderately well off by drag racing.
Assuming that you were filthy rich when you started.
My Uncle basically started off in Top Alcohol out of pocket.
I would personally never race anything slower than 6.50 probably. I care more about having fun and going semi fast than I do winning. 6.0’s to me is fun. Semi fast but not crazy fast and I can still do it on a budget.
Why? If that person seriously races the car and tries to be competitive, sounds like someone is racing! There choice of car and the car’s capabilities are nether here or there.
Agreed
Besides point of view….
I stated the above and stand behind it.
A case in point. A co-worker of mine, Terry M, purchased a ‘70 Super bee. It’s only street time was home from the dealer, to and from the track, a really nothing else unless a test burn out down the street is not good for, I’m sure Terry did so…..
The car is sub 15K miles, looks mint, bought for one purpose only, to go bracket racing. Terry threw some Hustle Stuff at it and had a blast. Has a few trophy’s and great times.
How is this not a bracket racing car? Because he bought it new? Only mildly modified it? May have used it on a few car meets, perhaps around the block with a few friends? Or a egg, milk and bread run?
Come on man. You’re narrowing down what a car can be and what a bracket car is only from your point of view.
By the way, are you going to write up a quick o we view of what your idea is of a street strip car? Come on now, basic idea.
33IMP
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Nines are fast, at least in my opinion, but I want to run 10.teens, or 6.40s, to avoid all the stuff that goes with nines (though my car has all the safety stuff necessary for nines, short of a chassis cert).
If any of my closest tracks ran index races, or something like SEGA, I'd start building something tomorrow.
If any of my closest tracks ran index races, or something like SEGA, I'd start building something tomorrow.
33IMP
Well-Known Member
I have bracket "raced" my late model pony car (brand immaterial) but it certainly is NOT a bracket car. Imo, the definition of a bracket car is something, whether street/strip, daily driver, or full on race car, that can cut a light, and put up consistent times. My car CANNOT cut a light to save its life, some sort of throttle delay incorporated into the drive by wire, but it is consistent. It will be consistently different by at least a couple tenths from run to run.
I used to make fun of the horrible lights I would see by the late model chargers,challengers camaros and mustangs...... till I tried it with my car.
I'm not laughing at them anymore.
I used to make fun of the horrible lights I would see by the late model chargers,challengers camaros and mustangs...... till I tried it with my car.
I'm not laughing at them anymore.
That was written on the back of Bobby Warren's Superstock
Nova in the 70's and he is still involved in racing today and it is still true today.
His Grand Daughter's husband flew out from North Carolina
a couple years back when hi had a shot of winning the Division
and raced my E/SA Demon 340 at final Divisional in the country.
MOPAROFFICIAL
Oogliboogli
We aren't in the racers forum are we?
Did John street drive that car?
What we aren't doing wrong or are is not having 5.xx gears and 5000 stall in a race car, no matter what the weight. This is where I try and clear things up by 'in general' saying... stay in your lane.
John is respected much. He knows that.
MOPAROFFICIAL
Oogliboogli
Dan the man
Well-Known Member
The maverick never came with a 300
How do you make a million $(fill n the blank>>>>>drag racing horse business, cattle business )?
Start with 3 million!
Why would I be in the Racers Forum, I have no interest in having a race car. However, I don't need to stay in my lane. Are you out of your lane? If more people put more into quality machine work and parts into their engine they would be faster. We both know that a dedicated Drag Race car is just that. I mainly rides on a trailer to do it's quarter mile thing and everything is optimized for that goal. My only point was, for all the know it alls, here is a low compression 318 supposedly worthless and not up for any kind of performance running the quarter mile in 10 seconds. What if you backed off the cam, that lowly 318 would still be making plenty of power. Granted by a professional life long respected racer. John and I have had a few long conversatioins.
$22,000 just for the 10,000 rpm red line. Kim
MOPAROFFICIAL
Oogliboogli
You mentioned the guy who held a record RACING in RACE CAR to in general shade people with 408 motors, that could insinuate that every one of them was expected to be in a race car too. That's why I asked if this was the "Racer's forum". Makes perfect sense , to me. You can have all the motor in the world and yet still have a car that's not set up to put it to the ground. Now you just said that of course it's a race car Etc , then you still go on about the motor discounting the other half of it , the race car . What exactly are you going about with the motor that you insinuate others dont already do? Blueprint compression and square up to limit to raise it? Yeah let's read machine every single bit of that block, rods because we totally need that in our street cars , that extra six horsepower or two horsepower or .4 horsepower.
John's deal is unique...john was running that class, not the rest of us..nor so has anyone saidthey want to. I'm not impressed with John like you are but it's for other reasons. Some people really make him look bad.. but so does he by staying silent.
John's deal is unique...john was running that class, not the rest of us..nor so has anyone saidthey want to. I'm not impressed with John like you are but it's for other reasons. Some people really make him look bad.. but so does he by staying silent.
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I farted. Got a little on me too.
Rat Bastid
Dunamis Metron
They make personal hygiene products you can wear so you can do that in your pants and not feel bad.
That takes all the fun out of it.
Rat Bastid
Dunamis Metron
That’s a street car that gets bracket raced. It’s not a bracket car by definition.
I’m not typing out the proper definition from street car to race car. It would be pages long
lead69
hopeless car junkie
This in a nutshell is why I hate bracket racing most of the time. A guy can jump in a 17 second minivan and clean house on a whole field of fast, well built cars and all he had to do was cut an ok light and leave it in drive. For me winning that way is like being proud of a getting a trophy for participation.
Or racing for 20 plus years and racing in the “street” class. We have a longtime Mopar racer beating up on beginners and he’s prouder than a Peacock. Guys and girls that are beginners get discouraged and quit.
No participation trophies. Sorry, you cannot "buy" your way out of bracket racing. Fast or slow, same challenges... reaction time and a car that is consistent, and knowing what to dial. Car and driver working together. Period. If you can't cut a light, or drive, and your car isnt' consistent, then you and all your money machines get put on the trailer.
And if you have a car that cuts a 1.5 60 ft time and you can't cut a better light than the guy cutting a 2.6 60 ft in his mini van, that's on you ...lolP.S. - the "you" isnt' literally you, lead69 , just generally speaking
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lead69
hopeless car junkie
Yeah, uh no, that's bullshit, That's also what those guy's say in their defense lol. Much easier to win/be consistent in a slow car that doesn't spin a tire and cut ok lights then to have to chase a car down and not break out when you are seconds faster. The slow guy sets the stage, to really have a chance the faster guy has to try to cut a better light, run him down, beat him and not break out. You tell me who has more of a challenge?.No participation trophies. Sorry, you cannot "buy" your way out of bracket racing. Fast or slow, same challenges... reaction time and a car that is consistent. Period. If you can't cut a light, and your car isnt' consistent, then you and all your money machines get put on the trailer.
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