Good Streetabe Power

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stop light to stop light streetable, my money is on the stock 375 hp 440 by a mile. lol
oh that's right we're not racing, the 302 and 318 won't be running steep gears and a high stall convertor.
There I go comparing apples to oranges again. lol
Probably will, just saying the 318 should able to make that power plus be streetable too.

I really don't care what people want build for their mopar as long it's mopar, do a turbo 2.2l in a A Body if that's your thing idc :)
 
A 375 hp 318 won't be as streetable as a stock 375 hp 440. lol
I would argue that statement. That enginemasters 318 motor I ran in a 3400 pound duster I used to have( all steel, full bench seat interior, factory flat hood, etc….i ran detuned with a 231/237 solid cam.
It drove like a docile 6 cylinder minivan.
But ran almost 116 in the 1/4 shifting it at 6200. It barely had any lope, super smooth. On pump gas with the factory tank and 5/16 fuel line.
 

260@50 isn’t wild…lol
My stroker is 260@50 and it’s quite a bit under cammed. It’s a compromise to being part streeter
I get ya :) but you know what I mean it's not many that's gonna jab bigger than a 260 into their street ride, a lot of people would consider that a very large aka wild cam for a street car.
 
I would argue that statement.
What rear axle ratio and convertor were you running.
Keep in mind I'm referring to a plain jane stock 440 magnum with 3.23's and factory convertor and possibly running AC.
My 451 isn't exactly tame with a 4800 stall and 4.10 gears, I sorta miss driving stock 440's.
 
I get ya :) but you know what I mean it's not many that's gonna jab bigger than a 260 into their street ride, a lot of people would consider that a very large aka wild cam for a street car.
I get your point… :thumbsup:
Just bear in mind a 4 inch stroke deal really gobbles up duration.
When I had my W5 deal I ran a 273@50 roller in it. Truth be told, I drove that car more on the street( a lot more) than I do this Dart. It was much more sedate than you would think it would be. I drove it 70 miles round trip one day to race it at US131, made the bracket finals team with it that night, last night of the points season. Little crazy actually, doing that, in retrospect.:realcrazy:
 
What rear axle ratio and convertor were you running.
Keep in mind I'm referring to a plain jane stock 440 magnum with 3.23's and factory convertor and possibly running AC.
My 451 isn't exactly tame with a 4800 stall and 4.10 gears, I sorta miss driving stock 440's.
4.10’s and 4500 ish vert. Tight 8 inch, drove like a stocker.
 
You're just NOW figuring him out? lol
I didn't start this thread to have 318 debate especially since it not about any particular engine, people seem to want to take it there, After watching the original video I just figured the basic concept would help some of our members, there really shouldn't be any debates happening at all.
 
The max streetable power is subjective. You can have a little 4 banger that makes 300 or so horsepower but runs like poop unless it's it's racing, cough! ricer guys, cough!. People are daily driving 500HP and up cars with just a tune and other upgrades, so it depends on the setup.(some of those four ringed VW's are stupid quick, but I'd still won't own them.) Some turbo charged engines can be pretty tame under light driving, but when you punch it and let the turbo spool up a massive increase of power can knock the tires off from a 35mph roll. So my answer is, reject everyone's logic and substitute my own:p
I had an Omni GLH Turbo that was totally drivable and showed 350HP at the wheels... You just have to know how to drive it :thumbsup:
 
Good streetable power is a wide open thread title. Vixen is probably a tic over 200HP, but in a 2700 pound car. She can pull out and pass in the fast lane.
 
I don’t see myself as a pot stirrer :) I just tend to see everything from a different angle, which puts me at odds with most but I do also like a good debate.
 
I had a normal Omni back the day, 2nd car 1st mopar, always wanted a GLH, I've toyed with the idea of building a clone with a turbo 3.6l mounted in the rear :)
 
This came in my youtube feed and thought it be interesting for people looking to build so called streetable power. The test is basically what power you can make with what many would consider a streetable duration 224 @ 0.050" basically to me the mid point between RV and Street & Strip and around when torque peak starts moving up in rpm enough the 1st level of higher Stall and deeper gears may start to become necessary.

Would make an all around decent package for most and with these examples 5.0l, 5.3l & 5.7l nothing crazily big and none have to turn too crazy of an rpm to make 312-440 hp just the right top end to go with it. No reason couldn't go a step down if you wanted eg.. 218 and give up a few ponies. With the right top end and a reasonable cam should be able to squeeze decent power even out of a 302, never mind 318 or 360 etc..



I dug this one up to show what a 5.0l in our case a 318 should be able to do with better heads/top end, 418 hp with a 224 & 0.050"


In regards to the 302, stock heads?
Thats why they jump out of the hole so hard... small ports. They only flow 160cfm iirr. So the 318 with stock heads, some work in them.. and really its right there imo. Small cams are not a bad thing at all.
 
In regards to the 302, stock heads?
Thats why they jump out of the hole so hard... small ports. They only flow 160cfm iirr. So the 318 with stock heads, some work in them.. and really its right there imo. Small cams are not a bad thing at all.
In the 1st video was GT heads slightly better than normal stock 5.0l got 312 hp with xe274hr, 224 @ fifty cam but upgraded top end with rpm intake and think AFR heads and got 418 hp with same cam and short block. Side note got 375 hp with stock cam.
 
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In the 1st video was GT heads slightly better than normal stock 5.0l got 312 hp with xe274hr, 224 @ fifty cam but upgraded top end with rpm intake and think AFR heads and got 418 hp with same cam and short block.
According to the net, the gt40 head is 145cc and flows about 190. Better than I remember. So if a 318 head is 124cc.. and flows 165-170 'in the sub .500 range' and porting to around the same 195 cfm ends up ime 195-205 cfm/mid 130's cc with stock 1.78...then bam.. same flow, more velocity.. small cam material with power throughout the entire rpm range of idle to 5500
 
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I don’t see myself as a pot stirrer :) I just tend to see everything from a different angle, which puts me at odds with most but I do also like a good debate.
r2, r2. lol
 
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