Helping your children
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mopowers
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I view a children's fundraiser much like any other crowd funding/go fund me effort. If I want to, I donate. If not, I don't. It's not really worth getting worked up over.
My own kids sure! I had no small part in producing any others, so if you had them... you pay for them.
You may want to research the meaning of “no small part “.
Or you may start getting custody suits . LOL
Did you get to judge the results ? Lol
MMissile
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I too often see the parents selling all the crap the kids are supposed to. If a kid is actually putting a real effort into something, to help themselves... I'm in.
You're only a kid, once...and I wouldn't want to be working at something and have all the negativity. Most kids have no interests or will these days.
The good kids need to be rewarded for good behavior. Just remember when you were young. So little positive for children, these days.
If you have common-sense, your gut directs your response on handouts.
You're only a kid, once...and I wouldn't want to be working at something and have all the negativity. Most kids have no interests or will these days.
The good kids need to be rewarded for good behavior. Just remember when you were young. So little positive for children, these days.
If you have common-sense, your gut directs your response on handouts.
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gunbunny
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I've been on both sides of "fundraising". I'm not a fan of it.
When my son was in school, I handed his teacher a $100 and told her not to send any "sales for prizes" crap home with him. if you need something, let me know and I'll see what I can do.
Now that I'm on this side of schools, I still hate them. I know and understand why some school districts have them. Funding for school districts is lopsided as hell. Live in a well to do school district and you'll never need or want for anything, live in a poor district, and well, you get what you get.
I'm fortunate that I work in a school system that has a couple of capable grant writers, and fundraising isn't a big deal. We have 65% of our students on free lunch. So that doesn't mean we don't have them. 4H and FFA has their annual fruit sale. Honestly the proceeds from that goes to students attending the big conventions that state law says we can't use taxpayer funds to pay for.
We've done some other creative fundraising in the past, nothing that was to intrusive to the families of students. We've had a couple of large construction, welding and manufacturing companies who've sponsored students to represent in competitions. The down side of that is you may become beholden to those companies.
As far as helping my son of granddaughters? I'll take a bullet for them. I'm not above telling them if they're messing up, and I'll not blindly defend them. You will have to go thru me to get to one of them though. I may not be able to stop you, but you'll damn sure know I was there.
When my son was in school, I handed his teacher a $100 and told her not to send any "sales for prizes" crap home with him. if you need something, let me know and I'll see what I can do.
Now that I'm on this side of schools, I still hate them. I know and understand why some school districts have them. Funding for school districts is lopsided as hell. Live in a well to do school district and you'll never need or want for anything, live in a poor district, and well, you get what you get.
I'm fortunate that I work in a school system that has a couple of capable grant writers, and fundraising isn't a big deal. We have 65% of our students on free lunch. So that doesn't mean we don't have them. 4H and FFA has their annual fruit sale. Honestly the proceeds from that goes to students attending the big conventions that state law says we can't use taxpayer funds to pay for.
We've done some other creative fundraising in the past, nothing that was to intrusive to the families of students. We've had a couple of large construction, welding and manufacturing companies who've sponsored students to represent in competitions. The down side of that is you may become beholden to those companies.
As far as helping my son of granddaughters? I'll take a bullet for them. I'm not above telling them if they're messing up, and I'll not blindly defend them. You will have to go thru me to get to one of them though. I may not be able to stop you, but you'll damn sure know I was there.
Most national charities can be looked up to see what their "administrative" cost percentage is.
Two of my favorites are the March of Dimes, that actually sends out dimes taped to cards inside their request for money.
WTF?
One similar charity (I think I have mentally blocked the name) had an "in" with the place I used to work (funny, 'cause it was county government), and they were relentless with the asking and asking for "payroll deduction" gifts and sending internal, county emails to the tune of "we haven't heard back from you yet..."
I mean come on....
One year I had had enough, and responded to their outside coordinator, who was sending those emails- "I volunteer for a local 501c3 non-profit that provides labor and funding to vaccinate and sterilize (TNR) feral cats. Are you aware of the size and scope of this national epidemic? (links to info and statistics) If you would be interested in donating to my 501c3, I will donate a matching amount to your 501c3".
I never got another email from that person, not even a reply. Funny how that worked out when the shoe was on the other foot.
Also, once most of them get your contact info, you get bombarded. Good luck trying to make a one-time donation. They are also likely to sell that info to other charities, as why not, it's easy money.
My wife was donating to Toys for Tots, fairly regularly, until she missed a year and got inundated with "why did you stop" letters.
You gotta know my wife....but she ended up personally corresponding with the retired Marine general who ran the entire show, giving him some strongly worded advice, and sending a final check which thereby terminated their relationship.
Two of my favorites are the March of Dimes, that actually sends out dimes taped to cards inside their request for money.
WTF?
One similar charity (I think I have mentally blocked the name) had an "in" with the place I used to work (funny, 'cause it was county government), and they were relentless with the asking and asking for "payroll deduction" gifts and sending internal, county emails to the tune of "we haven't heard back from you yet..."
I mean come on....
One year I had had enough, and responded to their outside coordinator, who was sending those emails- "I volunteer for a local 501c3 non-profit that provides labor and funding to vaccinate and sterilize (TNR) feral cats. Are you aware of the size and scope of this national epidemic? (links to info and statistics) If you would be interested in donating to my 501c3, I will donate a matching amount to your 501c3".
I never got another email from that person, not even a reply. Funny how that worked out when the shoe was on the other foot.
Also, once most of them get your contact info, you get bombarded. Good luck trying to make a one-time donation. They are also likely to sell that info to other charities, as why not, it's easy money.
My wife was donating to Toys for Tots, fairly regularly, until she missed a year and got inundated with "why did you stop" letters.
You gotta know my wife....but she ended up personally corresponding with the retired Marine general who ran the entire show, giving him some strongly worded advice, and sending a final check which thereby terminated their relationship.
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Don't know if it still happens. One of the place I worked had that donate to "insert charity" here. The company got a kickback on the volume of donations.
I donated time and money to things I wanted. Never a penny to some of the groups that have an 80%+ admin/fundraising rate.
I donated time and money to things I wanted. Never a penny to some of the groups that have an 80%+ admin/fundraising rate.
Dartswinger70
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Yup wife donated to a couple charities got bombarded I told her "stop it if you have extra money put it in the bank..."
JDMopar
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I don't particularly care for people knocking on my door to sell stuff, but during Girl Scout Cookie time....I won't walk by a bunch of little girls without buying at least a box. Two reasons. 1- I like a few varieties of the GS Cookies. 2- It may be the last time I get to cut up and act silly with silly little girls before they turn into snotty teenagers! It never hurts to leave a good impression on a kid. Years ago, I was at the grocery store and this beautiful 20 something year old girl looked at me and said hey. I looked around quickly with that "Is she talking to me?" look on my face and she laughed and told me she was glad I was still funny. She then told me she remembered me buying Girl Scout Cookies from her 10 years earlier. About 8 or 10 years later, I bought cookies from HER little girl in front of the grocery store. Hopefully, I will live long enough to buy some from her granddaughter someday! 
Thanks. I might do that. We put him on the bus to Atlanta today to get a plane to LA and then on to Sydney and finally on to Western Perth. It was really tough saying goodbye.
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I donate a few buck, grudgingly, to kids coming to sell candy or something. I don't want to be the Scrooge of the block. My big beef is that my school tax is INSANE. I already pay for school, and some activities out of that. Where I live, I have never used the public school system, but pay more than the guy next door with his four kids who are in the system. Because my house is worth a few dollars more than his, I pay more school tax. I'm in my 70's and he is in his 30's. His kids may be using the system for the next decade or so, as I pay. I do not mind paying towards kids education, God knows they need it, but the school tax needs revamping. On top of that, my granddaughters are home schooled, so they don't get any benefit from my tax payments.
I already put my daughter through, grammar school, high school, and college, on my dime, don't need to put everyone else through school too. 
I already put my daughter through, grammar school, high school, and college, on my dime, don't need to put everyone else through school too.
Yeah but since when does the school system actually use any money wisely? We had a Bibb County school super years ago just arbitrarily "decided" that every student should learn Mandarin Chinese. What? Espanol was a much wiser and obvious choice, but Mandarin? I mean seriously WTFF? Just ridiculous. He was later shown the door because he faked almost all of his credentials. The school board didn't even check on it because he was a black immigrant who proclaimed to be "self made" so he was instantly slobber fodder for the local liberals on the board.....which there are many of. Romain Dallemand. Look it up. He ended up serving 8 months in prison. It was a real flub by the school board. Like they needed another one.
When my kids were in school, I supported every endeavor they wanted to do. But I did it my way. I joined the wrestling boosters when my son was in wrestling, I was the VP, in charge of fundraising of course. I ran the scrap drive, and since I know scrap, I worked the scrap drive with the precision I always do. I separated everything to maximize profits. The last year I made over $10k for the wrestling program, which helped all levels of wrestling, not just the high schools. A sample of the amount of stuff I brought home to separate to get the most $$ out of it….
I had a deal with one of the HVAC companies to take their cores in exchange for the wrestlers cleaning up their pull-down where all their stuff goes.
I may donate some money, but I always donate my time and efforts to anything my kids want to do.
I had a deal with one of the HVAC companies to take their cores in exchange for the wrestlers cleaning up their pull-down where all their stuff goes.
I may donate some money, but I always donate my time and efforts to anything my kids want to do.
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