Holley Confusion

[Creedmoor]

So I just did full blown rebuild on my ancient Holley 1850-3 (made in 1971 or 1981), ultrasonic cleaning, Holley TrickKit, the works. Still can’t tune it acceptably. Both primary and secondary shafts have play. I think it’s just worn the eff out. As a result, I’m looking at new Holleys but am somewhat confused on their offerings. My preferences are:

600 cfm
Electric choke
Vac secondaries
Would like a dichromate finish instead of shiney. Don’t think it’s available anymore though.

Going on a 68 Barracuda with a 318 with an auto trans and a trans go TF2 kit. Stock exhaust manifolds into full 2.5” dual exhaust with H pipe, Edelbrock Performer intake and a mild (RV) cam (PO claimed it was a Performer cam and lifters-is there such a cam?), stock distributor with Pertronix. Initial timing is at 15 degrees (always worked well).

Holley has four offerings that seem to meet my needs, but I can’t figure out what the difference between them is. They all seem to be based on the 4160. Price is pretty much the same. Can the Holley guys explain the differences and perhaps recommend one?

Classic (my initial preference - think it has center hung floats).
Street Warrior
Brawler
Slayer

I know an Eddy 1406 is what most will say I should get. I just like Holley.

Appreciate any and all advice. Thanks!

 

[a-bodyguy]

Holley 650 dp

 

[RustyRatRod]

I like the Holley 625 Street Demon three barrel. Really nice carburetors. I have a 750 on my truck and it is flawless.

 

[tubbedamx]

Holley had a refurbished site

https://www.holley.com/products/fue...SOHc4jjLGFQot3lyO4ENns3DCKcs2n7hoCVegQAvD_BwE

 

[Newbomb Turk]

How much play is in the throttle shafts? I’ve only seen a couple that were worn out.

I’m not sure why you can’t tune it but unless the shafts are flopping around like socks on a rooster it ain’t that.

 

[RustyRatRod]

How much play is in the throttle shafts? I’ve only seen a couple that were worn out.

I’m not sure why you can’t tune it but unless the shafts are flopping around like socks on a rooster it ain’t that.

Like a hot dog down a hallway?

 

[33IMP]

I was gonna suggest a holley refurbished. I might trust it more than a brand new one. Holley's qc of late hasn't been great.
I have a brawler that has been great, but mine is a race version 850 dp, a bit different than a 1850.

 

[George Jets]

No Offense, just bolt on a 1406 Edelbrock and be done.

I don't like messing with carbs that don't work right. Got better things to do with my time.

Like fixing my main gate that some stranger decided to crash into.

Cemented Post... tore out.
Hit and run, they just took off without coming up to the house. Bent the ship.. out of the gate too.


☆☆☆☆☆

 

[RustyRatRod]

No Offense, just bolt on a 1406 Edelbrock and be done.

I don't like messing with carbs that don't work right. Got better things to do with my time.

Like fixing my main gate that some stranger decided to crash into.


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Cemented Post... tore out.
Hit and run, they just took off without coming up to the house. Bent the ship.. out of the gate too.


☆☆☆☆☆

Wow! That's just lame!

 

[Newbomb Turk]

No Offense, just bolt on a 1406 Edelbrock and be done.

I don't like messing with carbs that don't work right. Got better things to do with my time.

Like fixing my main gate that some stranger decided to crash into.


View attachment 1716489217

Cemented Post... tore out.
Hit and run, they just took off without coming up to the house. Bent the ship.. out of the gate too.


☆☆☆☆☆

If you can’t tune a Holley you can’t tune any other carb.

Just damn. Because you can’t do it no one can.

Got it.

 

[sr71mopar]

The best carb I ever put on a 318 was a Holley 9379 750. Someone once said, "Carter is where horsepower goes to die".

 

[Newbomb Turk]

The best carb I ever put on a 318 was a Holley 9379 750. Someone once said, "Carter is where horsepower goes to die".

Oh man…here comes the hate!

 

[Creedmoor]

C’mon guys, this is a mild 318. With a 7-1/4 rear end and 2.76 gears I’ve already blown up twice. A double pumper isn’t what I need or want. Just want opinions on the four I listed.

I had discovered Holley’s refurb carb offerings a couple weeks ago and would like to save some cash, but the only 600 cfm carb in stock is a Street Warrior. But I don’t know how it compares to the other three I asked about.

The shafts on my current 1850 have a lot of slop. If carb cleaner is spayed near them the rpm’s go way up. It also never goes back to within 150 rpm of the original idle speed when the throttle is blipped. Transfer slots are square, mixture screws are 1.5 turns out and the floats are set correctly. I’ve been fighting with this thing long enough. I think a new carb is in order.

I would just like an opinion on the 4 carbs I asked about.

Thanks.

 

[OldmanRick]

Make sure the baseplate to intake is sealing properly.....square to spread.

https://www.edelbrock.com/square-bo...VwySfM2rVppmLU0xSRvI-cNG2wxLoY9UEguog9TL1oBGu

 

[Bewy]

Use an Edel carb. Much wider baseplate means support for the shafts is much greater, less wear.

 

[Newbomb Turk]

Use an Edel carb. Much wider baseplate means support for the shafts is much greater, less wear.

How much load is on the throttle shaft?

Not much unless someone uses a barn door spring on the throttle lever to shut it. Or two of them.

They don’t just wear out.

 

[RustyRatRod]

C’mon guys, this is a mild 318. With a 7-1/4 rear end and 2.76 gears I’ve already blown up twice. A double pumper isn’t what I need or want. Just want opinions on the four I listed.

I had discovered Holley’s refurb carb offerings a couple weeks ago and would like to save some cash, but the only 600 cfm carb in stock is a Street Warrior. But I don’t know how it compares to the other three I asked about.

The shafts on my current 1850 have a lot of slop. If carb cleaner is spayed near them the rpm’s go way up. It also never goes back to within 150 rpm of the original idle speed when the throttle is blipped. Transfer slots are square, mixture screws are 1.5 turns out and the floats are set correctly. I’ve been fighting with this thing long enough. I think a new carb is in order.

I would just like an opinion on the 4 carbs I asked about.

Thanks.

Then buy a new 600.

 

[Bewy]

T/shafts can & do wear out. Often caused by the return spring arrangement. Some GM models were bad for this, but who knows how this old carb was set up in a previous life?