Manifold Lift Plate

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I have no worries with grade 8 bolts screwed in far enough to catch as my thread as possible… But it’s the actual threads in the manifold I worry about and an aluminum manifold I question it even further. Now in saying that I have used the lift without issue but I will admit it was with one eye closed and the other squinting lol
The "safety squint" lol
 
I think allot of us might say a quick prayer to the motor gods with every lift.
Just watch yer toes, always watch yer toes. lol
 
A Mustang magazine actually tested a lift plate years ago. They bolted an aluminum intake to a fixture and hooked up a load cell to the plate and started pulling. At 6000 lbs. the eye in the lift plate failed. They installed a more robust homemade plate and pulled again. The carb studs started to stretch at 8000 lbs. The threads in the aluminum intake never failed. You can lift your car with a lift plate on an aluminum intake.
 
how many times do you stress a connector before it fails from lack of strength
a plate offers no way to change it's angle vs equalizer
just don't break a bolt, cascade the rest, and have a 400 w/ all accy, and trans end up
wedged between the master cyl, firewall and the previously virgin exhaust in my '78 d150 service truck
all the threads on the first bolt that failed, were still on it (from the manifold)

never again, and un balanceable, too
good luck and be safe

dr
 
A Mustang magazine actually tested a lift plate years ago. They bolted an aluminum intake to a fixture and hooked up a load cell to the plate and started pulling. At 6000 lbs. the eye in the lift plate failed. They installed a more robust homemade plate and pulled again. The carb studs started to stretch at 8000 lbs. The threads in the aluminum intake never failed. You can lift your car with a lift plate on an aluminum intake.
that is not realistic in the bounce wamp pry and pray of engine swaps
no plate carries the load evenly. some bolts carry more than others
 
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Only time to use bolts with a plate is when you run long enough ones to put a nut on them to secure the plate, same as a stud. Sort of like you were going to pull an insert out.

NEVER EVER EVER run a bolt into aluminum , bottom it out and then put MORE torque on it. EVER. You are hurting the holding capabilities of the thread, trying to push the fastener out. Finger tight only similar to a stud approach. Another is people torque that 1/4 stud/nut or bolt as though they are fastening a main cap bolt, over tighten, overstretch, tensile is gone from the fastener and failure follows, not the fasteners fault!

Seen smart people F up lots of stuff over the 50 years of being in and around the auto business. Never surprised at some of the results.

Look up the tensile strength for 356 alum and the calcs for holding capacity of a 1/4 thread... If you F it up, with good threads/fasteners (even grade 5 stuff), it's not the equipment!
 
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I like using a chain, I used a plate once but also used a safety chain. Nothing wrong with a little extra safety.
 
The amount of times I’ve pulled a motor/trans combo using a seatbelt from pick n pull would make y’all cry. Holy ****.
an oil soaked questionable condition seat belt with two half hitches to hold the devil and the sketchasaurous loaner cherry picker.

make it snappy, there's modelo's in the cooler out in the parking lot!
 
an oil soaked questionable condition seat belt with two half hitches to hold the devil and the sketchasaurous loaner cherry picker.

make it snappy, there's modelo's in the cooler out in the parking lot!
Used an old belt to pull a 440/727...... but at least I used a 3" perfectly good expired race set shoulder belt.
I ain't crazy!
 
an oil soaked questionable condition seat belt with two half hitches to hold the devil and the sketchasaurous loaner cherry picker.

make it snappy, there's modelo's in the cooler out in the parking lot!
And a line of pissed off mexicans waitin on that sketchasaurous.
 

At least y'all can afford seat belts to use. Many times, I've used what is referred to in the Lineman world as a Collar Rope. simply a half inch rope about 10' long with the ends taped up. Go under the exhaust manifolds on each side and tie a square knot right above the intake. Then tie a figure 8 knot on each tail that came out of the square knot for a safety if the square slips. Po folks got po ways! :)
 
At least y'all can afford seat belts to use. Many times, I've used what is referred to in the Lineman world as a Collar Rope. simply a half inch rope about 10' long with the ends taped up. Go under the exhaust manifolds on each side and tie a square knot right above the intake. Then tie a figure 8 knot on each tail that came out of the square knot for a safety if the square slips. Po folks got po ways! :)
I just cut the seatbelt out of the car/truck I’m harvesting the motor from.
 
The house where I grew up had a huge sweetgum tree right next to the driveway that had a big limb that went right out over the driveway. Pulled many an engine with a piece of chain and a come a long. Although we moved out here in 2002, that tree is still there and so is that limb. You can still see scars from the piece of chain I had around the limb.
 
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