Mild 340 build runs hot

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If the temp on the rad is 40* different from top to bottom the rad is working right for aluminum , about 18* for copper so what you got?
Mine varies between 75 to about 90 degrees top to bottom depending on the ambient temperature. It's aluminum as well.
 
Two no cost suggestions for you that I didn't see listed in both pages. I'd do these before you start throwing money at the problem:
1. Take the radiator cap off (Engine Cold) start up the car and watch coolant flow through the radiator, once it comes up to temp and the thermostat opens. You should be able to tell if the coolant is flowing through at a sufficient rate, indicating if pulley size is incorrect.
2. Verify heat gun and temperature gauge in car match each other. "Shoot" the block with the heat gun in the front away from the headers and also wherever your temp sending gauge is located. Use these readings to verify if your gauge is reading correctly.
To answer your original question, I'm not sure if there is a top and bottom to the head gaskets, I believe there is. I always make sure all holes in the block line up with the head gaskets before I assemble. I'd also do as recommended in this thread and shine a light from the inside of the radiator and look for obstructions in the fins. Good luck and please let me know if you verified steps 1 and 2.
Okay, just got in from doing a few things to the car. It has a radiator that the core is 24"x17", 2 row, inch or 1 1/4" tubes. Water does circulate through when the thermostat opens. The water temp reading on the EFI readout matches the heat gun reading on the brass of the sending unit. Even though I have driven the car multiple times, up to 10 miles at a time, today when i had the cap off, the water level was lower, I added a little over a quart. Did not make a difference on the temp. I had a box fan running in front of the car and the fans kicked on. The fans come on at 205. I think I will pull the intake and check for blockage tomorrow. Emailed CVF and this is the only water pump they offer. I did redo some of my ignition today and set the initial timing at 14 degrees with 34 degrees total. AFR is set at 14:0 The friend that is helping me and I think there is a restriction somewhere and at this point do not believe it is in the radiator or cooling system in front of the engine. Long winded and not full of temp particulars.
 
Okay, just got in from doing a few things to the car. It has a radiator that the core is 24"x17", 2 row, inch or 1 1/4" tubes. Water does circulate through when the thermostat opens. The water temp reading on the EFI readout matches the heat gun reading on the brass of the sending unit. Even though I have driven the car multiple times, up to 10 miles at a time, today when i had the cap off, the water level was lower, I added a little over a quart. Did not make a difference on the temp. I had a box fan running in front of the car and the fans kicked on. The fans come on at 205. I think I will pull the intake and check for blockage tomorrow. Emailed CVF and this is the only water pump they offer. I did redo some of my ignition today and set the initial timing at 14 degrees with 34 degrees total. AFR is set at 14:0 The friend that is helping me and I think there is a restriction somewhere and at this point do not believe it is in the radiator or cooling system in front of the engine. Long winded and not full of temp particulars.
Before you pull the intake, why not pressure test the unit? Most parts stores will lend you the pump and gauge set up. I had a 289 that had similar issues and it would froth the coolant with no pressure loss, then heat up. I thought the water pump assembly was suspect, but sold the sedan delivery.
 
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definitely only goes on one way

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NOW alignment pins might prevent the gasket from being on backwards
 
I would have your fans come on early and in stages.

1st fan on at 185, off at 183

2nd fan on at 190, off at 188
 
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definitely only goes on one way

same gasket mirrored


NOW alignment pins might prevent the gasket from being on backwards
That's what I thought when I put the heads on a couple of years ago. Didn't think you could get it wrong. If I do get that far, what head Gaskets does the group like? I believe I used FelPro, but I have no idea which number.
 

My logic is probably wrong…but with a mechanical fixed fan it’s always running.

If your fans come on 25F degrees after the thermostat starts opening it will be hard for them to recover.

It is also an easy/free change to see how it responds.
 
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IMHO.

The fans should start at slightly above what the engine wants to run at.

Say you have ab180 thermostat but the engine will run down the highway at 190 all day long. Set it to 195.

That way they are not on at freeway speeds but will kick on when you get off the highway and hit a light. If the SYSTEM is sized correctly the fans should pull the temp down to 190 in under a minute so have them turn off at 185 or 190.

You play and figure what works best for you.
 
Here is a picture of the setup before hoses were attached.

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1st thing you got no shroud, 2nd you got the bare minimum for fan cfm 2500-4500 cfm is recommended for V8's, 3rd looks like a pretty thick rad especially for 2500 cfm fans, 4th there a fair bit where the fans don't cover.

Does it work fine on the highway (continuous driving where fans are not needed) ?
 
1st thing you got no shroud, 2nd you got the bare minimum for fan cfm 2500-4500 cfm is recommended for V8's, 3rd looks like a pretty thick rad especially for 2500 cfm fans, 4th there a fair bit where the fans don't cover.

Does it work fine on the highway (continuous driving where fans are not needed) ?
Page 3 and yall are still pullin teeth. phug all that.
 
I have a mild 340 build. Stock bottom end, 30 over, Hughes whiplash cam, Eddie heads and a Summit knock-off Air-Gap intake, FAST EFI. It runs hot, 215-225 degrees. Last fall I tried multiple thermostats. Currently have a high flow 180 degree in it. Running CVF Wraptor serpentine system. Way big BeCool radiator. Radiator and 2 Spal 1522 fans, the radiator is doing the job, heat temp gun shows that. My question, I don't remember which head gasket I used, would have been a Fel-Pro though, is there a difference in the head gaskets orientation? Front to back? I am about ready to start tearing apart the engine to look for a problem, intake first.












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I may be way off base here, but I fixed some overheating issues on a couple SB chevys by installing a spring in the lower radiator hose to prevent it from collapsing. On one of the engines, I could barely see the radiator hose collapsing, but it was and the spring fixed the issue. They all used to come with a spring, not anymore. Just a thought before you take it apart.
 
I may be way off base here, but I fixed some overheating issues on a couple SB chevys by installing a spring in the lower radiator hose to prevent it from collapsing. On one of the engines, I could barely see the radiator hose collapsing, but it was and the spring fixed the issue. They all used to come with a spring, not anymore. Just a thought before you take it apart.

The hose only collapses when you rev the engine up, creating the low pressure in the pump to suck it closed. Let off the gas. it opens NOW.
It was sheer luck I was looking at the hose as I revved the engine, the first time I experienced it.
Was a hearse that couldn't return down the hiway with the procession cuz it overheated at speed.
Lotta people scratched their heads before we got it.
 
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I may be way off base here, but I fixed some overheating issues on a couple SB chevys by installing a spring in the lower radiator hose to prevent it from collapsing. On one of the engines, I could barely see the radiator hose collapsing, but it was and the spring fixed the issue. They all used to come with a spring, not anymore. Just a thought before you take it apart.
Have thought of that, it has the stiff flex hose on it so it's not collapsing.
 
1st thing you got no shroud, 2nd you got the bare minimum for fan cfm 2500-4500 cfm is recommended for V8's, 3rd looks like a pretty thick rad especially for 2500 cfm fans, 4th there a fair bit where the fans don't cover.

Does it work fine on the highway (continuous driving where fans are not needed) ?
 
Yes I know there's no shroud, but the two 1500 CFM fans cover almost the complete opening in the core support. And yes going down the road it runs 220°.
 
1500 cfm fans & you are complaining about overheating. What a joke. A 7 blade, 19" mech fan, pulls over 6000 cfm....
 
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