Past and present SBP wheels

[340GTSport]

Since I wasn’t around in 1969 . I would like to know what all wheels were available for small bolt pattern a-bodies ? Oe and aftermarket. Also if we know what wheels are available today ?

Was there other car manufacturers at the time using this bolt pattern also ?

Thanks for any input

 

[33IMP]

Mopar had steelies, and rallyes. And recall wheels for about five minutes (they are now worth a billion dollars)
Aftermarket had about twenty companies selling slots, I think there is one left.
Torque thrusts were available, LONG discontinued. Boyd's makes a 17" version, nice looking in my opinion. Available I believe, but hard to find.
Around $250 each.
ET Wheels will make custom 5 on 4 wheels, but you'll probably pay $2000 for a set.
By the early 70s, centerline sold 5 on 4 in lots of widths, and several offsets.
Vintage available only, since Centerline Tool went belly up, and the new centerlines available now are Chinese, and aren't available in 5 on 4.

 

[toolmanmike]

ET, Keystone Classics, Cragar SS (still made) These were made 10 or so years ago. (Halibrand clones)

 

[340sFastback]

Mopar had steelies, and rallyes.

No rallys until 1970

 

[jeff alder]

we have 14'' small bolt rallies, 13, 14 and 15 inch steelies. Had one set of chrome reverse with baby moons on a 67 Barracuda. (man I wish I still had those) 14 and 15 inch Cragars. One set of real centerlines. One set of "centerline" 10 inch rear 3.5 inch fronts. One set of proline aluminum mags that look like centerlines. All small bolt

 

[MMissile]

Fenton Gyros. I have 2pr of 3 1/2"X15, 4" BC fronts... and a half-dozen NOS caps.

 

[matthon]

Old school direct bolt sbp 14": Cragar, Cragar Sparklers, Keystone, chrome reverse, and an unidentified aluminum with steel hoop.

 

[str12-340]

The predecessor of rallye wheels were steelies that were the same dimensions as the later rallye wheels - 5 1/2 inches wide and the same offset (they came with the dog dish center caps). small (4 inch) bolt pattern was a chrysler thing only on A-bodies. Other Brands with small wheels used 4 bolt wheels. Small bolt pattern started in the early 60s and went away in 1973.

 

[1969383S]

Post #3 wins my vote! Hands down no discussion needed!

 

[autoxcuda]

There was a torque thrust small bolt offering back then. They pop up for sale here sporadically. Use the search function to find them.

 

[71GSSDemon]

I have 14" ralleys, 15x4 Centerlines, and 15x4 Shelby Cal 500 slots in SBP for thr front of my Demon. Those are the only Shelby wheels I have ever seen in SBP

 

[RustyRatRod]

Cragar used to make these in 5x4 bolt pattern. Now they don't make any at all. Bastards.

Camaro Cragar Eliminator with Gray Center Direct Drill Mag Wheel 15 x 7

Classic old school Eliminator Cragars is the answer for any Chevelle or Nova. 1-piece cast rim with gray center. These are NOT a Uni-lug bolt pattern. These mag wheels are made for your Camaro with the correct 4.75 bolt pattern and 4'.

www.musclecarcentral.com

 

[FISHYPETE]

I like the 14in Rocket mag wheel, had them on my 66 1975, I still have them

 

[Swingn’71]

Post 5 Are you saying 15” 5 on 4 o.e. Steelies ? I have never seen or had my hands on a set..!! Swingn’

 

[Dartswinger70]

I am thinking back then people went straight from the dealer to the wheel shop.

 

[WV64Signet]

current... 5x4 Direct drill Cragar 61C S/S 15 x 6 SKU 1521911402B

 

[toolmanmike]

I am thinking back then people went straight from the dealer to the wheel shop.

Day 1 mod. There's a shop in town that does that but mostly with trucks.

 

[toolmanmike]

Post 5 Are you saying 15” 5 on 4 o.e. Steelies ? I have never seen or had my hands on a set..!! Swingn’

Never made OE. Wheel Vintiques used to make them.

 

[RustyRatRod]

Day 1 mod. There's a shop in town that does that but mostly with trucks.

Yeah, dealers even used to do it themselves as part of some of those one off dealer packages.

 

[jos51700]

I'm buying every stock set of pickup rims I can find. I have a secret warehouse full. In 30 years when people are restoring these trucks from today, they'll be worth a fortune.

Who am I kidding, these trucks will die in twenty years due to obsolete electronics.

I was at the recycler yesterday and there were pallets and pallets of rims, all in truck sizes. Brodozer wheels are really popular here.

To OP's point, I've always felt that the lack of options in 5 on 4 is part of the reason the factory offered body color wheels in that era, so I'm going to offer that as an option, too.

 

[matthon]

Wheel Vintiques used to make them.

Still do, I have them on the front. Although they show out of stock available in August as of today, they were available last week.

Fronts with 215/65/15:
Wheel Vintiques 63-5654334A Wheel Vintiques 63 Series O.E. Chrysler Black Wheels | Summit Racing

 

[Killer6]

The predecessor of rallye wheels were steelies that were the same dimensions as the later rallye wheels - 5 1/2 inches wide and the same offset (they came with the dog dish center caps). small (4 inch) bolt pattern was a chrysler thing only on A-bodies. Other Brands with small wheels used 4 bolt wheels. Small bolt pattern started in the early 60s and went away in 1973.

Actually, they stuck around until the end of the A-body, '76.......all 4-wheel drum cars with 7.25" rears still had the 5-on-4" bolt pattern.

 

[AbqSteamWorks]

Still do, I have them on the front. Although they show out of stock available in August as of today, they were available last week.

Fronts with 215/65/15:
Wheel Vintiques 63-5654334A Wheel Vintiques 63 Series O.E. Chrysler Black Wheels | Summit Racing

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Beautiful car! I just bought a set of these rims from Summit Racing for my 68 Barracuda. They're real nice, but the strange thing that I can't figure out is that the center of the rims don't sit up against the drums. They sit out about 1/4". The areas around the lug nuts don't sit up against the drums either. The only part of the rims that are touching the drums is the area around the outside of the lug nuts. Here is a picture that I hope shows what I am trying to say. In the picture, I sat a level across the inside of the rim. You can see that the level is touching the circular area outside of the lug nut holes, but the inner area is about 1/4" deeper. How could that be? Shouldn't the rims be touching the drums on both the inner and outer areas? I've also included a photo from the Summit website that shows the rims on Dart. If you look closely at the center where the rim meets the hub, it looks like there is a gap. The rim isn't up against the hub/drum. This is very confusing since it seems that a lot of guys use these rims on their abodies. Any insights would be greatly appreciated.

 

[matthon]

1st pic are the 15x7 sbp wheels that used to be on the back of my Barracuda.
Custom made from sbp centers, wheel contacts the drum on 5 outside edges and on the inside edge, although some of that may be paint chipping due to taking on/off.

2nd pic are 15x8 bbp, which iirc are Ferd centers, contact is spotty on inner/outer.

3rd pic are 15x8 bbp which were on my Dart, now on the back of my Barracuda, switched to bbp axles. Clearly these wheels only contact on the outer edge, but continuously.

Last pics the front/back of the wheels on my car now. 'Gap' not visible on the front, rear slightly visible.

Rather have the continuously contact, and I doubt tightening the nuts would have any negative impact on the wheel.

 

[str12-340]

The inside face of your wheels look like the inside of every Mopar Factory Rallye Wheel that I have ever seen