Shop must haves

[DentalDart]

I used 2” foam insulation panels as the “first coarse” on both my walls and the ceiling, followed up with bat insulation. The foam boards are re-purposed roof insulation purchased from roofing contractors (from school buildings, offices, etc), and it’s worked out great (and for only 40 cents on the dollar roughly compared to new)! In the gaps I used spray foam, and I gotta say- that building is TIGHT! Unfortunately I ran out of warm days to finish-up filling gaps with foam, so here I am….waiting.

Picture of some of the foam boards I bought from a local roofer:

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That’s exactly what I used on my walls. With air space it is close to 12R value. Your smart doing it on warm days, I was doing it last winter with no heat out there and I was freezing my *** off

 

[red67gts]

I brought my new shop build back to the top with lots of pictures from my shop build from start to finish if anyone is interested. Spray foam is your friend especially if using tin in ceiling. I was at an auction and found enough pegboard to go all around which helps a lot, Joe

 

[red67gts]

I would still drill through concrete where legs will be because in middle of floor it may only be 2-3"

 

[Professor Fate]

I used 2” foam insulation panels as the “first coarse” on both my walls and the ceiling, followed up with bat insulation. The foam boards are re-purposed roof insulation purchased from roofing contractors (from school buildings, offices, etc), and it’s worked out great (and for only 40 cents on the dollar roughly compared to new)! In the gaps I used spray foam, and I gotta say- that building is TIGHT! Unfortunately I ran out of warm days to finish-up filling gaps with foam, so here I am….waiting.

Picture of some of the foam boards I bought from a local roofer:

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That's exactly how I finished my shop- picked up a bunch of 2" poly-iso foam board from a contractor that was doing a tear-off on a warehouse. Got my shop ceiling nicely insulated (I only heat the lower level) for a fraction of the cost of new.

 

[Mopar Momzee]

If you do spray foam 1 thing I should have done is spray fire retardant paint over it and if it’s white it will reflect the lights better. Spray foam does burn more so than batting.

 

[ProjectBazza]

That’s exactly what I used on my walls. With air space it is close to 12R value. Your smart doing it on warm days, I was doing it last winter with no heat out there and I was freezing my *** off

Nice! Add an insulated 2x4 or 2x6 wall and laugh at the weather outside! In the ceiling I have the same foam panels, but with R38 batts, and I could probably heat the place with a few candles if it weren’t for the cheesy overhead door.

 

[DentalDart]

I would still drill through concrete where legs will be because in middle of floor it may only be 2-3"

Yeah I will do this, I haven’t picked the exact spot of the lift yet? I don’t know how far from the walls I should make it and how far into the shop would be best.

 

[Dana67Dart]

It’s currently a 10in thick slab with rebar, was built 35 years ago but it’s thick

I would doubt the entire floor is 10" thick. Where you are measuring looks like a sump of sorts and would have cement on its sides to create the sump.

Your best bet is to drill a hole through the floor where you intend to bolt the 2 post and measure the actual depth.

Just my 2 cents

 

[red67gts]

also make doors at least 10 ft wide. I have one 10'x12' on each side and 10'x10' on each side. I park my 2022 Ram in middle in front of lift and I put motion sensor light in middle so if I go in walkin or rollup at night I have light without turning on switch, Joe

 

[GTXDAN]

Here's something I did where my welder is. I have plywood on the inside walls painted white so I got a couple of Hardie panels 4x8 and screwed them right to the plywood in my welding area. They won't burn so no worries. They're not to expensive.

 

[DentalDart]

I would doubt the entire floor is 10" thick. Where you are measuring looks like a sump of sorts and would have cement on its sides to create the sump.

Your best bet is to drill a hole through the floor where you intend to bolt the 2 post and measure the actual depth.

Just my 2 cents

No sump, it’s just where the water comes in the shop, the outside spicket is just 20ft from there outside the shop.

I’ll drill a hole tomorrow, we had friends over for dinner tonight.

 

[DentalDart]

A few thoughs, having been in my shop for 25 years now. I agree with all the suggestions above. And I've pretty much done them all, albeit in hindsight. Be smart and play along from the start. In no particular order:

I would go the extra expense to do plywood on the walls instead of OSB. I have both, and plywood is vastly superior and well worth the extra cost. Dont scrimp here, you will thank me later.

This may be a me thing, but I need shop tunes. My shop system is excellent and I about never work in silence. Run overhead speaker wires early on. If TV is your thing, set that up also. Mine uses the stereo for sound. I watch it very little but I do have one.

I dont see a mini-split mentoned yet. Get a big enough one, you will never be sorry. It is 45 outside right now and I'm in a t-shirt inside. Same deal applies in the summer. Set it to cool and if it's 95 outside, it's 70 inside. In this vein, seal up the shop. I use a mickey-mouse deal on the sliding doors but it works. Minimizing cold/hot air from the outside is a big deal.

All that said, I'm jealous of your setup. I'm on a couple of acres but more land is better. As many have said, buy once cry once.

Ok I’m convinced. I’ll spend a little extra and just do the plywood. It’ll probably cost 1000- 1200 more to do plywood pfft

 

[BSB67]

Ok I’m convinced. I’ll spend a little extra and just do the plywood. It’ll probably cost 1000- 1200 more to do plywood pfft

You won’t regret it.

 

[TF360]

If you don't insulate the inside of the roof on these metal buildings, does condensation form and drip?

 

[red67gts]

yes condensate will drip

 

[Jo Diesel]

Work benches on wheels with cabinets above Made these for my son for Christmas

 

[70SwingerGuy]

Floor drain if possible

That would be nice, but I believe thats illegal here in Saskatchewan

 

[Raskull]

When building your shop or setting up your shop what are some of the things you feel like is a must?

Osb or drywall on the walls? Spray foam over batting?
More electrical outlets than you think you need?
Larger breakers?

And so on.

My 40x40 is getting the trusses raised stating next week, I’m moving the garage door to the side and adding a 2nd one, then insulation and finishing the walls. 2nd garage door is so I can have lifts on both sides. Im 100% getting a 2 post but was thinking about a 4 post on the other side.

I think I’m going to do OSB covering the walls but I’m open to other options. Figured OSB was cheaper and allows me to hang things anywhere.

So if you could do it again what would you have done differently, added or subtracted from your build.

Photo of shop cleaned out and quick rendering of where I want doors.

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When building your shop or setting up your shop what are some of the things you feel like is a must?

Osb or drywall on the walls? Spray foam over batting?
More electrical outlets than you think you need?
Larger breakers?

And so on.

My 40x40 is getting the trusses raised stating next week, I’m moving the garage door to the side and adding a 2nd one, then insulation and finishing the walls. 2nd garage door is so I can have lifts on both sides. Im 100% getting a 2 post but was thinking about a 4 post on the other side.

I think I’m going to do OSB covering the walls but I’m open to other options. Figured OSB was cheaper and allows me to hang things anywhere.

So if you could do it again what would you have done differently, added or subtracted from your build.

Photo of shop cleaned out and quick rendering of where I want doors.

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Here are some ideas for you based on a couple of my shops. First phots are from CA which was done in two stages. A 26x40 then added a 30x40 with higher roof to accommodate lifts. The second set of photos are the FL garage I recently finished. It started off as a RV/hot rod hoist dual-purpose shop.

 

[Raskull]

Work benches on wheels with cabinets above Made these for my son for Christmas

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When building your shop or setting up your shop what are some of the things you feel like is a must?

Osb or drywall on the walls? Spray foam over batting?
More electrical outlets than you think you need?
Larger breakers?

And so on.

My 40x40 is getting the trusses raised stating next week, I’m moving the garage door to the side and adding a 2nd one, then insulation and finishing the walls. 2nd garage door is so I can have lifts on both sides. Im 100% getting a 2 post but was thinking about a 4 post on the other side.

I think I’m going to do OSB covering the walls but I’m open to other options. Figured OSB was cheaper and allows me to hang things anywhere.

So if you could do it again what would you have done differently, added or subtracted from your build.

Photo of shop cleaned out and quick rendering of where I want doors.

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The finished FL shop

 

[DentalDart]

@Raskull I like the idea of having the lifts towards the back of the shop! Seems like it helps it feel as if it’s not taking up as much space as it actually is. I also like the dedicated work bench areas everyone has set up.

 

[DentalDart]

Work benches on wheels with cabinets above Made these for my son for Christmas

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How did you build the work benches?

 

[Dana67Dart]

Just a thought.

Build a small parts paint booth. Proper ventilation / dust control and temp control

 

[Raskull]

How did you build the work benches?

I used 2x4s, 1x3s or 4s, ¾ plywood with anchors as needed to fasten the cabinets to whatever walls are in your shop. You can get a cabinet guy to build Formica countertops like I did. Make sure you use ¾ plywood sanded on one side for the cabinet fronts, doors & drawer fronts. I suggest painting both sides so they don’t warp. I glued all my wood connections to strengthen the joints as well. My drawer slides are 100# capacity self-closing but you can buy less expensive ones too. Photos below show the construction of the last two shops that I have built the cabinets for.

 

[DentalDart]

Made a quick rendering. i added the 2 post and 4 post lift, 4 post on the right (not buying right away). Red lines are current doors, purple is current garage door at the back that I’m not moving the location, and blue lines are where garage doors will be.


If I move the 4 post to the front of the shop by garage door, I could use that top right area as a little workshop area. The door in that area goes to the smaller shop which can also be used as a workshop for welding, painting or anything I wanted. I’ll probably store my car parts in there still.

 

[Raskull]

Made a quick rendering. i added the 2 post and 4 post lift, 4 post on the right (not buying right away). Red lines are current doors, purple is current garage door at the back that I’m not moving the location, and blue lines are where garage doors will be.


If I move the 4 post to the front of the shop by garage door, I could use that top right area as a little workshop area. The door in that area goes to the smaller shop which can also be used as a workshop for welding, painting or anything I wanted. I’ll probably store my car parts in there still.

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The sketch looks good . I suggest building a 4x6 rolling table with 1/4” plate steel top as that’s where most of the work gets done .