Speedmaster intake porting. Hopefully I can make something out of this

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———stock SM————ported SM
.100——-83——————91
.200——-143—————148
.300——-183—————193
.400——201—————-215
.500——212—————-227
.600——221—————-235
.700——225—————-238

Maybe not what you had hoped, but still solid gains.

Is it all done? How much time do you have in it?
 
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Can you or have you snap gauged between a rpm ag and the sm ag?


No I have not and I’ve never ran a dual plane. If I remember right a ran a Torquer around 1975-1977 or so then upgraded to a Offenhauser port o sonic. I ended up running 11.82 back in the late 70’s early 1980’s with my 340.
 
Maybe not what you had hoped, but still solid gains.

Is it all done? How much time do you have in it?


Time wise I honestly don’t know as I will grind for 20 minutes and spend 20 minutes on the internet I know I had over 4 hours on it probably closer to 6. I’m finished as far as I know unless I can find some detailed pictures of an LD340 and RPM intake. I think I lost all of my pictures on Photobucket but may double check.
 
@pittsburghracer
I have a RPM AG brand new sitting untouched, never bolted down or mounted. What would you like? PM me.
 
@pittsburghracer
I have a RPM AG brand new sitting untouched, never bolted down or mounted. What would you like? PM me.


If possible could you give me a measurement of the opening (width and length) of the carb flange opening into the plenum. (one side) If anyone has an LD340 I could use the same info from it. THANKS!!!
 
While looking for my old Photobucket pictures for my buddies LD340 I found a few pictures of my Super Victor that I have sitting on my shelf. Looking at these pictures you will see why I always bad mouth the Super Victor intake. It isn't to SUPER out of the box as you can see by the smallish ports. I have gone 9.74 with this one after a lot of work on a very worn out 408.
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While looking for my old Photobucket pictures for my buddies LD340 I found a few pictures of my Super Victor that I have sitting on my shelf. Looking at these pictures you will see why I always bad mouth the Super Victor intake. It isn't to SUPER out of the box as you can see by the smallish ports. I have gone 9.74 with this one after a lot of work on a very worn out 408.View attachment 1715674633 View attachment 1715674634 View attachment 1715674635


Yeah, when I was younger I didn’t mind having everything small so I could shape it how I wanted. Now, screw that. I’d rather be damn close to size for a little fluff and buff and send it.

I know for me to get what I think is a reasonable burr finish takes me much longer than just a paper roll finish.

So much for the burr finish being a time saver.
 
My version of “burr finish” is to just skip the sandpaper rolls.

So, for me...... it is a time saver.

I just use an old dull carbide for ferrous metals....... and call it good.

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My version of “burr finish” is to just skip that sandpaper rolls.

So, for me...... it is a time saver.

I just use an old dull carbide for ferrous metals....... and call it good.

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I like the finish, but how do you get the carbide thoughts out??? That’s the biggest issue I fight. No matter what I do, the walls are always wavy and there are troughs and ridges I can’t get smoothed down with a burr, so I hit them with a paper roll to get all that in shape.

My technique with the burr must suck.
 
It’s all about the speed and using the right (double-cut) burr. You have to be able to control it.


I’ll take a picture of the burr I’m using to finish with when I get out there this afternoon. I don’t think it’s exactly the same as Larry Meaux or Chad Speier uses.
 
Another reminder of what you out of the box (Victor340) guys may be leaving on the table. Edelbrock 7276 intake gasket layout.
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I rarely end up with troughs that need to be worked out........ and I find it’s easier to get them leveled out with coarser burrs as opposed to finer.
For aluminum heads, I use the non-ferrous burrs to get the porting roughed in........ then I’m just diminishing the surface roughness by using progressively less coarse burrs.
And then all I’m doing on the jobs that are getting the sanding roll’s is smoothing out the finish.

I try and do all the shaping with the burrs.

About the only place I might use a sanding roll for final shaping is the SSR.

It’s like most “skills”...... it takes practice to get good at it.

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I use 3 out of those 4 the most.

For roughing aluminum I use the non-ferrous versions of the ovals.

I don’t even think I have one of those straight ones.

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Some guys are curious on time took so I worked for one hour and got the four ports shown above roughed in. Gasket match and most of the four runners at least 3/4 way to the plenum. The corners of these runners really need pushed over quite a bit so that was a big part of the time.
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I like the finish, but how do you get the carbide troughs out??? That’s the biggest issue I fight. No matter what I do, the walls are always wavy and there are troughs and ridges I can’t get smoothed down with a burr, so I hit them with a paper roll to get all that in shape.

My technique with the burr must suck.
I had the same thing at first on the some of my early projects that I’ve worked on, but hit on a method that works pretty good for me to cut down on that from happening. Slowing down the cutter speed to where you can feel the cutter grabbing, along with faster tool motion (back and forth etc) and adjusting my pressure at the same time. I spend a lot less time trying to fix those ripples by not creating them, seems to happen when I get too greedy grinding
 
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I rarely end up with troughs that need to be worked out........ and I find it’s easier to get them leveled out with coarser burrs as opposed to finer.
For aluminum heads, I use the non-ferrous burrs to get the porting roughed in........ then I’m just diminishing the surface roughness by using progressively less coarse burrs.
And then all I’m doing on the jobs that are getting the sanding roll’s is smoothing out the finish.

I try and do all the shaping with the burrs.

About the only place I might use a sanding roll for final shaping is the SSR.

It’s like most “skills”...... it takes practice to get good at it.

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It’s hard to tell from the pictures, but how does your burr finish compare to say...a 40 grit or 60 grit paper roll, or is it rougher than that?
 
Some guys are curious on time took so I worked for one hour and got the four ports shown above roughed in. Gasket match and most of the four runners at least 3/4 way to the plenum. The corners of these runners really need pushed over quite a bit so that was a big part of the time. View attachment 1715674787View attachment 1715674788

Man that looks awesome! How much do you charge?? LOL I've got a BB Victor I need to send you to work on. :thumbsup:
 
Not to sidetrack the thread but I thought these pics of my brothers cast iron Pontiac intake just back from a Poncho guru in Canada might interest some .
Nice work !

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If possible could you give me a measurement of the opening (width and length) of the carb flange opening into the plenum. (one side)
Driver side is easiest, take note of the picture and how the plenum wall is under the top of the passenger side flange. Same sizes measured.
1.700 wide X 3.65
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Another reminder of what you out of the box (Victor340) guys may be leaving on the table. Edelbrock 7276 intake gasket layout.
Geee, that looks familiar.
I used some of Edelbrock’s Gaska-chinch to glue the gasket on. It’s just like rubber cement.
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