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    Last one.

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    Thank You for taking the time. This is all of great help.
    Since the Barracudas are different in the trunk area, painting may have been done a bit different. Maybe no black paint is visual on floor were back seat was... most of this part is covered by this board. There is a video of Ken Montgomery´s BO on You Tube indicating this part may all have been in Gray Primer. Video is from´93 but, car had been retired for many years. Look for PT4 Ken Montgomery. There are several great videos from his shop.
    I see you have inside of fire wall in black. Did Hurst do this part, when door jam area was painted. I guess floor was in primer?
    In the SS Guide an extended piece of floor mats is mention. Do you have this piece?
    Thanks again
     
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    About this Video... I think the Hooker headers showen, are what Hooker later offered... but than again it wasn´t Mr. Montgomery who stated them being factory headers from 1968 :)
     
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    When the interiors of the LO and BO were painted it was none before assembly. I believe the entire engine, interior and trunk compartment as quickly painted gloss black. Paint was flying everywhere. LOL!!

    If you look at this picture you can see the overspray on the upper grill support.

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      I talked to Bryan Higgins one of owners of the S&K Speed Dart. He said his car was all white everywhere not prime or black. Just primer on the out side. Also from talking to a lot of owners that are still alive said Chrysler send that the racers are to finish the cars, that the cars are not finish yet. This is from my research.

      Your Dart looks awesome
       
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      Also from what I have researched thats most these car were not put together that good Because of the rush to get them out to the racers.
       
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      Thanks Dave.

      One thing I have found out about these cars is the word "always" can never be used. LOL!

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        "all white everywhere not prime or black. Just prime on the out side."
        Does this means under carriage, engine compartment and trunk was in white?
         
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        I heard that several cars that were not "pre sold" we're painted white and sold. Very fast and ugly paint job. I'm guessing there were trying to keep them from rusting????

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          I love it.... In the two above photos you can see how the doors are different colors than the body's . The sheet metal on the doors were "thin" and came from a different location that were the body's were from so they used different paint. Bob Torozzi said that when they were stamping the doors they used two pieces of metal equaling the same thickness as a stock door. They would stamp it and then pry the two pieces apart. That is how they made the thin doors and the bumpers.

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            This is what I have bin told also.
             
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            Interesting... I did not know how this was done.
            So according to documentations Tarozzi sent to Hurst regarding weights of the components that was, in one way or another, to be change to reduce weight, Steel Door other skin 13 lbs each. And Steel Doors 31 lbs each.
            This make me draw the conclusion something was done to the Steel Doors as well...
             
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            The steel on the door I was shown was paper thin. The paint looked thicker than the steel and very rusty orange inside. Very convincing to me of acid dipped parts.
            The owner of the car was particularly careful while opening and closing the door when showing me the metal thickness. The door and window parts were lightened to the point of easily damaged if treated as production parts.
            I never looked at the bumpers up close myself but I like the double sheet stamping idea mentioned above for them since they required chrome plating. Acid milling does not leave a smooth surface thats needed for chrome plating.
             
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            Bob was at Spring Fling this past year and he told me the trick of two sheets of metal in the stamping process. He also said the trick was separating the two sheets were hard to do. The were not acid dipped like some of the other manufacturers would do.

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              I have not seen those first two pictures before, thanks!!
               
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                In 2010 this former Dave Wren Barracuda was for sale on E-Bay. Apparently it was in very good original condition, and of cause I saved... yes, but just the link... Not a very smart thing to do if you want to look at pictures of the car, six years later.
                There were at least twenty photos of the car and details of it.
                Someone may have been smarter, and willing to share the pics of details here with me...
                If so, I would be very glad to say the least...
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                Does anybody have a clear picture of a Hemi Barracuda hood? Are there any body lines in it or is it all flat? Thanks.
                 
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                The scoop with the edge along the center seen on this pic, I think was the same DC later sold, and I got for my Dart 1976.
                Reinforcement also go along front opening...
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                  Sorry, I now see you are talking about the hood... :)
                   
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                  No prob......I was also talking about a Barracuda. LOL!! I'm sorry for hi jacking this post but I know there are many BO and LO people watching this thread. Thanks again, Troy.
                   
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                  seems like I remember the bodies being white primer back then. "bodies in white "
                   
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                  Not at all... you are more than well come to post anything BO/LO related...
                  Here is another picture I found on the net.

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                    Ok, maybe some came in white? Or was some of them painted in very light gray primer? It seems they were not all exactly the same, and this goes with a lot of details, from what I understand... Right?
                    Someone mention one car was all white... no black... if trunk, engine compartment and door posts were white I don´t know.
                    One sometime whish statements to be a little specific... it´s all about details... isn't it :)
                     
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                    That is a perfect picture. Thank you very much.
                     
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                      FRONT SUSPENSION TRAVLE STOP
                      Well that´s what I call this device, here shown on an early Pro Stock.
                      When was it introduced to the SS cars... I know some racers had some sort of device, but thing it wasn´t till later in to the seventies... Right?
                      Pictures found on the www.
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