Me too.I’d buy them again in a NY second. He’s got oiling issues.
I'm cheap, so I take a die grinder and make grooves in the shaft.
The grooves are cheap insurance.
Me too.I’d buy them again in a NY second. He’s got oiling issues.
Yes and yet so many disagree. lolMe too.
I'm cheap, so I take a die grinder and make grooves in the shaft.
The grooves are cheap insurance.
Please understandDoesn't sound like a defective issue.
I will say that if PRW had warrantied them but made no changes, I was going to buy a set of Rocket's Shafts and try that.If oiling grooves didn't work Ma Mopar wouldn't have grooved 40 million shafts.
What are your plans regarding making SURE you have adequate oil from the engine?I will say that if PRW had warrantied them but made no changes, I was going to buy a set of Rocket's Shafts and try that.
I still might get a set from him depending on what Rocker Arms I end up with.
He's another Great person I got to talk with because of all this...
So I feel very fortunate in a backwards kinda way...lol
I would highly recommend doing your research and talk with some of these people before buying anything.
Mike
Well I have a couple ideas,What are your plans regarding making SURE you have adequate oil from the engine?
Pushrod oiling, IMO is a crutch, but if that's what you wanna do, it's your engine.Well I have a couple ideas,
First someone suggested taking off the rockers and shafts one side at a time ,
Pull out all spark plugs, cover the oil hole in the rocker stand with a cup or something
Have someone crank the engine over to watch how much oil is getting to each shaft.
Another thought was to just plug the oil holes in the heads under the shafts,
And get a set of Rocker Arms made for magnum Engines with La heads and just use pushrod oiling.
I also have a new solid flat cam I was going to install in the near future, I might have a groove machined in the journal for full-time oiling..
Just a few ideas
Just a thought,Pushrod oiling, IMO is a crutch, but if that's what you wanna do, it's your engine.
Well sure, but magnum engines don't have the LA oil passage drilled (at least most do not), so what other choice is there? Without pushrod oiling, you'd have ZERO. I thought I'd talked blue in the face about my recommendation. It is this.....I would make DAMN SURE the factory LA passage to the rocker shaft is providing an adequate volume of oil. SOMETHING is not right and I don't think it's the rockers at this point.Just a thought,
I mean isn't that what you do on magnum Engines with LA heads?
What would you recommend?
Also, I think you answered this, but forgive me. I'm lazy and ain't gonna back read plus I forget. Did you say you are runnin an HV oil pump? If so, they you have plenty of oil volume from the SOURCE, it just may not be getting the volume it needs to the top.Just a thought,
I mean isn't that what you do on magnum Engines with LA heads?
What would you recommend?
Ok thank youWell sure, but magnum engines don't have the LA oil passage drilled (at least most do not), so what other choice is there? Without pushrod oiling, you'd have ZERO. I thought I'd talked blue in the face about my recommendation. It is this.....I would make DAMN SURE the factory LA passage to the rocker shaft is providing an adequate volume of oil. SOMETHING is not right and I don't think it's the rockers at this point.
Of course not being THERE and only diagnosing over the internet has its disadvantages. We're doin the best we can with "what we got".
I would say if you have an HV pump, you should have a pretty big mess to clean up if it's getting the right amount of oil there. lol And it should make a mess pretty dang QUICK.Ok thank you
I'm not disagreeing with you.
I talked about checking the oil at the shafts with the suggested method.
I will do that for sure.
Being a boat mechanic that reminds me of a mercruiser test for checking water flow they have you take the hose off the pump hold it straight up and there's a spec.
On how high it should flow out the hose.
I'm not sure exactly how much oil should squirt out of the head?
But I can at least see if it looks obviously low...
I appreciate your help.
Yes high volume oil pump
I don't know how else to test that...I would say if you have an HV pump, you should have a pretty big mess to clean up if it's getting the right amount of oil there. lol And it should make a mess pretty dang QUICK.
Well, you COULD remove the shafts, remove the rockers and replace the shafts in the correct orientation without the rockers and torque to spec, remove the plugs and spin the engine. That should tell you pretty quickly.I don't know how else to test that...
I can say there sure seems to be plenty of oil on the rockers and shafts each time I've had the valve covers off.
And from what I can see through the oil fill with the Engine running, there's a river of oil flowing.
Everyone should have a least one valve cover with the top cut off just for this occasion.Well, you COULD remove the shafts, remove the rockers and replace the shafts in the correct orientation without the rockers and torque to spec, remove the plugs and spin the engine. That should tell you pretty quickly.
Manufactures also made enhancements to parts over the years as well.Post #129. I can think of quite a few deletions manufactures made to parts over the years, either to save money....or they were found to be unnecessary...or both. Deleting the oil spurt hole in the rod/cap intersection is one....
I take zero stock in anything Rick says. I do buy the occasional part from him, though.He used prod oiling with a second set of rockers & they still failed; it is not an oiling problem. if you believe R. Ehrenberg, SAE, he say this on p.77 of the latest MA magazine: idling, in gear if auto, the oil pressure is at least 8-10 psi & instantly comes up a bunch just above idle, you're fine.
Post #129. I can think of quite a few deletions manufactures made to parts over the years, either to save money....or they were found to be unnecessary...or both. Deleting the oil spurt hole in the rod/cap intersection is one....
They could easily cut some nanner grooves in a shaft THERE and test to see how much more oil they get.Manufactures also made enhancements to parts over the years as well.
Saying this has something to do with something else is pointless.
It's a pity PRW was not interested in getting one of the rockers back just to have a look and maybe check the material used in it..Just to rule that possibility out.
I don't see a downside to a correctly grooved shaft.They could easily cut some nanner grooves in a shaft THERE and test to see how much more oil they get.
Thin cut off blade in a hand held angle grinder works good as well.I take a die grinder and make grooves in the shaft.
I don't have any valve covers cut open, but I do have a large oil fill port that I added to the passenger side and with the cap off I can at least watch two rockers up close with the Engine running , their getting oil.Everyone should have a least one valve cover with the top cut off just for this occasion.
Did the OP ever say what the oil pressure is?