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That would be enough to make your sticker peck out.
ScampMike
Despicable Damn Yankee
LOL - nice call!!
straightlinespeed
Sometimes I pretend to be normal
Evening folks!
ScampMike
Despicable Damn Yankee
hey Ramie, whasup?
Princess Valiant
A.K.A. Rainy Day Auto
oh nice ...someone has a box dart
that looks like a very early build 69
I would bet the vin is a lower number and it was built in august/ sept. or early fall of 68
straightlinespeed
Sometimes I pretend to be normal
Not a lot. Just watching The Walking Dead...
I put in a Summit and a Filter 1 order...
Now Im researching whether or not to use my 90* adapter or just run a short filter and the plate... I cant get the gaskets for the 90* so I guess that answered my question. LOL
I put in a Summit and a Filter 1 order...
Now Im researching whether or not to use my 90* adapter or just run a short filter and the plate... I cant get the gaskets for the 90* so I guess that answered my question. LOL
ScampMike
Despicable Damn Yankee
well, 5am comes too early on a Monday - gots ta go - cyas!
Ddaddy
Just doing what I do
Evening folks. Looks like everyone left. 
Anywho, it was a nice warm day here and I started thinking about the front brakes in the GTS. I need to replace the shoes and hardware...maybe do the drums and bearings at the same time. I haven't pulled them apart to see what it needs so I figured I'd just do a total overhaul.
Where are you guys/gals getting brake parts from?
Anywho, it was a nice warm day here and I started thinking about the front brakes in the GTS. I need to replace the shoes and hardware...maybe do the drums and bearings at the same time. I haven't pulled them apart to see what it needs so I figured I'd just do a total overhaul.
Where are you guys/gals getting brake parts from?
Princess Valiant
A.K.A. Rainy Day Auto
Evening folks. Looks like everyone left.
Anywho, it was a nice warm day here and I started thinking about the front brakes in the GTS. I need to replace the shoes and hardware...maybe do the drums and bearings at the same time. I haven't pulled them apart to see what it needs so I figured I'd just do a total overhaul.
Where are you guys/gals getting brake parts from?
advance auto
I got a set from Motopsycho in Indiana. He sells just the 3 gaskets for $15...
Look for his ad in the mechanical section to see if he has more.
We had to use the 90° adapter to run 68-70 340 exhaust manifolds. The pass manifold exits right into the oil filter, so you can't use the plate and short filter with them...
Dang girl, you know your ****...
He was telling us how he had a hard time finding a 340 in the early buid date (casting date between July 68 and Dec 68 to match his early production car...
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Princess Valiant
A.K.A. Rainy Day Auto
I will bet you didn't even see the one very fine detail in the engine compartment that made me believe a dead giveaway that it is an early build.
There is something in the engine compartment ....very small detail but when I point it out ....it will be like a billboard. This small detail also goes hand in hand with some other details ...but the one thing in the engine compartment screams it.
GO!!
Don't know. I've never had a 69 Dart, but a few 67 & 68 barracudas... So I'm not up to speed on the intricacies of the 69 Darts...
Do tell...
Princess Valiant
A.K.A. Rainy Day Auto
well, as we all know ......lack of headrests are one giveaway because before 1/1/69 they were optional only but after 1/1/69 they became federal mandated so the ALL the ones after will have them. That is only so reliable though because seats can be changed.
Also the engine is 68 Turquoise ......but again not completely reliable because engines can be painted and changed out.
Still one more detail that is more detail that says it all......to be continued.
Princess Valiant
A.K.A. Rainy Day Auto
That is a 68 inner fender.
If you look at later 69 darts they will not have this bolt hole. 67 and 8 fenders have an extra brace that the 69 fenders do not have that bolts right here.
This is unused in his 69 dart. They probably still had some 68 inner fenders on the line when these cars went through. I guesstimate right after calendar year they changed the die slightly to exclude this bolt hole.
My 69 Dart was built in may of 69 and it does not have this ....but oddly enough, you can tell a later build 69 dart like mine because if you look behind the front bumper it will have the little Tabbys on the lower outer radiator support which would be used in 70 for the lower valance.
If you look at later 69 darts they will not have this bolt hole. 67 and 8 fenders have an extra brace that the 69 fenders do not have that bolts right here.
This is unused in his 69 dart. They probably still had some 68 inner fenders on the line when these cars went through. I guesstimate right after calendar year they changed the die slightly to exclude this bolt hole.
My 69 Dart was built in may of 69 and it does not have this ....but oddly enough, you can tell a later build 69 dart like mine because if you look behind the front bumper it will have the little Tabbys on the lower outer radiator support which would be used in 70 for the lower valance.
Ters
Mopar infected...
Morning all!:coffee2:
Replied on the thread Karl, try help best I can. Have a blessed day all!
Ters.
Princess Valiant
A.K.A. Rainy Day Auto
this will also apply to Barracuda .....my dad has a 69 cuda that was built on august 20, 1968 and his also has the unused bolt hole on the inner fender.
Ddaddy
Just doing what I do
Good eye! While, that's mostly true...it's not entirely. My '69 GTS was built in early October '68 and it does not have the bolt hole you pointed out. While having the hole suggests an early build, not having it doesn't mean it was necessarily a later build.
During those days, anything could happen on the production line and even some much later builds may have gotten the inner fenders with bolt holes. It all depended on the inventory management which wasn't very consistent back then.
My car also does not have headrests but it does have the shoulder belts. Both were optional before 1/1/69. While you couldn't get one without headrests after 1/1/69, you could get one with headrests before then.
Many times the holes for the sheet metal are made with punches. They just have to remove the punch from the tool and it will be gone...
But then there is the issue that it takes time to pull the die and remove the punch if it is not done "in house". Then you need to build a bank of parts to buy you some time to pull the tool and do any modifications (if there were any more than just a simple punch remove). But there may have been other changes included in that one that may need more time to update the tool for.
When you write an engineering change to a part, you can do it with obsolescence or without. If it is without obsolescence, then the plant at the supplier and assembly plants have to scrap any of the old level parts after the change has been made. Then the engineer gets a quote from the supplier and plant how many will be left over and there will be money allocated in the change for the scrapped parts. If the engineer doesn't include scrap money in the change notice and there are some left over in the assembly plant and supplier's plant, then they have to absorb the scrap cost...
If there is no money in the change notice to scrap the old level parts, then they try to purge out the stock before the change is to take place, or else it comes out of their budget...
Then you have the running change without obsolescence, where the old level and new level parts are completely interchangeable (will still function properly) and then both the supplier and assembly plants can run out all of the old stock before changing over as there is no money to cover their scrap.
If they have to do the change with obsolescence and there is no money in the change notice for scrap allocation, then if there are any left over parts, then the assembly plant and supplier factories have to absorb any scrap costs in their budgets. So they don't like to scrap parts unless engineering pays for them in a change notice.
I've never had a 69 a-body.
All of my barracudas have been either 67 or 68. I've had several of each over the years....
I prefer the flat hoods over the beaks...
It's just that I've always found the 67's and 68's when I was looking, a 69 never popped up... :???:
Princess Valiant
A.K.A. Rainy Day Auto
Good eye! While, that's mostly true...it's not entirely. My '69 GTS was built in early October '68 and it does not have the bolt hole you pointed out. While having the hole suggests an early build, not having it doesn't mean it was necessarily a later build.
During those days, anything could happen on the production line and even some much later builds may have gotten the inner fenders with bolt holes. It all depended on the inventory management which wasn't very consistent back then.
My car also does not have headrests but it does have the shoulder belts. Both were optional before 1/1/69. While you couldn't get one without headrests after 1/1/69, you could get one with headrests before then.
it probably varies from plant to plant ....may I ask which plant your car was given birth at??
Ddaddy
Just doing what I do
Really? They have the 10" drums, shoes and hardware?
Wow, I would have never guessed that.
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