Upper Control Arm disaster

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I've been looking all over for upper control arms to replace the upper control arms in my 68 barracuda (drum brakes).

Its been a disaster. I tried the QA1 tubular control arms. The first set broke almost immediately, which I sent back. The replacement set didn't fit, they hit the bracket holding the arms in. QA1 told me to grind down the bracket. I told them no way and returned them.

Specifically what do you mean when you say they broke. Broke where, and how. Pictures?

I do track days on these and competed in Optima Ultimate Street Car with these without issue. After looking at all the tubular arms on the market and their construction, the QA1 is by far the nicest tubular arm on the market, period.
 
We offer a varied of arms for your year A body. We Offer both small and large ball joint style upper arms depending on what you are doing. We do have the small upper ball joint control arms in stamp steel oem and I believe that is what you are looking for. They come ready to install with ball joints and bushings screwed and pressed into place.

Thanks
James
I'm sorry your post seems like a commercial in the middle of my forum reading? For a bodies only has commercials now? I for one am not a fan....
 
Specifically what do you mean when you say they broke. Broke where, and how. Pictures?

I do track days on these and competed in Optima Ultimate Street Car with these without issue. After looking at all the tubular arms on the market and their construction, the QA1 is by far the nicest tubular arm on the market, period.

I asked thr same thing, he knocked the bump stop tab off of one of the arms while “pounding” the UCA into place with a rubber mallet.

I'm sorry your post seems like a commercial in the middle of my forum reading? For a bodies only has commercials now? I for one am not a fan....

Eh, the guy actually needs control arms, posted about needing control arms, and asked which ones he should get. The wording of that post is a little generic, but James is just trying to help. As you can see from his follow up posts.
 
I asked thr same thing, he knocked the bump stop tab off of one of the arms while “pounding” the UCA into place with a rubber mallet.



Eh, the guy actually needs control arms, posted about needing control arms, and asked which ones he should get. The wording of that post is a little generic, but James is just trying to help. As you can see from his follow up posts.
I honestly didn't mean it as a slam. I just ment it how it felt - pure and simple...
With a twinge of fear that if every vendor on here was suggesting there parts for every thing we had it would not be cool. Kind of like my neighbor that has four cars parked out on the street, if we all did it would be a nightmare.
 
I just got done doing mine and went to a friend's shop who got in some crazy rush for some reason and bent the passenger side we're pushing on the upper control arms. I ended up having to weld a slice of roll bar LOL in there to resupport it and ended up buying a 12 lb press at Harbor Freight and doing it myself correctly the rest of the way. Pain in the butt! But really I was looking at those qa1 control arms and all that stuff when that happened. If I was accidentally promoting a vendre it would be doctor diff and those little Shims that allow you to use a small ball joint with the big disc brake spindle hole? $20
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#-$@+!!? Yes I use the rubber mallet to get them both I had to pound them in a little bit. I guess anything can be fixed...
 
°^^^^Oh yeah and my 110 volt $99 Harbor Freight welder and $10 cutter grinder save the day for the 300th time!
 
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I probably should have been on this forum a while ago.
My wish too. When I started with my 1965 Dart, I wasn't much on ebay and didn't know of rockauto. I made some poor choices based on what I could buy at Autozone (slim pickings). I also thought I would be driving the car in a few weeks (not). But best to go slow and not back-track, but also pick your battles. It would be good to totally strip the car and have the body acid-dipped as a starting point like some car shows, but that also ends up costing >$100K. I also am an engineer (M.S. in Mechanical Engineering), but that didn't teach much specific to automobiles and I haven't worked in automotive. The academic theory does help when presented with some of the strange ideas about cooling systems, braking, and lubrication that people relate on the web. But, all my car knowledge has come from hands-on (many mistakes) and reading. It is much easier today to get info with the web than when I was trying to fix things in the 1970's where it was all hearsay (mostly wrong info from Uncle Bob).
 
So I would under stand if I buy the whole QA1setup for my car ,k frame control arms shocks all for the low low price of 2700$$ I cannot go wrong ?.
 
So I would under stand if I buy the whole QA1setup for my car ,k frame control arms shocks all for the low low price of 2700$$ I cannot go wrong ?.

Huh?

Depends on what you’re doing. Application is everything.

The QA1 K member doesn’t do all that much though. It doesn’t change any of the stock mounting positions, uses the same steering box and steering components. It only lightens the front end by about 8 pounds. In other words, if you have a stock K member that’s useable replacing it with a QA1 K member is just expensive. Might buy you some oil pan clearance. I think seam welding the stock K and reinforcing the steering box mount is more than enough for the vast majority of these cars, including those doing track time.

The QA1 tubular lower control arms are about the same. They’re very nice pieces, I have them on my Duster. But a stock set of LCA’s with reinforcing plates and new bushings does pretty much the same thing. The QA1 tubular LCA’s are only a couple pounds lighter. They used to allow a little extra suspension travel which can come in handy on a significantly lowered car, but they’ve since added bump stops that duplicate the travel of the stock LCA’s.

Really, the important parts are the UCA’s, which have more positive caster built in. So better geometry, and less flex. And the adjustable strut rods, which you need to work with poly or Delrin LCA bushings and eliminate binding to free up the LCA so it moves smoothly through its entire range of travel.

Shocks are important for everything, but they should be matched to the torsion bar size. If you run the undersprung stock torsion bars you don’t need fancy shocks. If you run bars over 1” in diameter you’ll want to go with Bilsteins or maybe the Hotchkis Fox’s. I’m sure the QA1’s are good too, but I haven’t run those. Bilsteins and the Hotchkis Fox’s work great.

So yeah, IMO you can go wrong buying that whole kit, because you spend half of your money on stuff most people don’t need.
 
Ok , I like the idea of loosing weight , nobody has actually said how much till now 8 lbs isn’t much though the car is a cruiser with week end bracket racing,or will be thanx for the info. Now do I spend the extra money on motor!
 
We do not have the small upper ball joint control arms as of yet (1963-72). This is a new product that I have been looking into but have not made yet (its on the list)

When will these be available. I am needing the fully adjustable but need the small balljoint because my 383 car has 4 wheel disc & I am not getting rid of the 4 piston. Right now I'm making due with stock a-arms with bad negative caster.
 

Let me just say this. Once you get your problem sorted out, (it sounds like whitepunkonnotro has just what you need), you could still upgrade to disk brakes some time in the future without replacing the UCAs again. I got a kit for my 69 Barracuda from Stainless Steel Brake Corp that used my current UCAs and small ball joints.
 
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