Bunch of snowflake pansies......

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I came across this doing an internet search for something else. These guys must all drink soy milk and take daily estrogen doses.......no offense to any of our female members.

Why did column shift manual transmissions go away?

I love ever column shifted car I've ever owned and I've had a few. Some didn't shift good when I got them, but you FIX the thing. This little car i have now is a dream to drive. But I will admit all the bushings are good and I have adjusted and lubricated everything properly. It's slap fun to me. Those guys are a bunch of losers. lol

I have to wonder how they would have reacted to my 64 Datsun pickup with a four on the tree. :D
 
I've driven a few with a "three on the tree". My 74 Dart Sport had one. It's getting a 360-727 now.

My dad had a 72 Chevy pick up with one. Sometimes, it would stick in 1st when crossing the gate to 2nd. He asked the mechanic about it. He got a price on replacing all the linkage, and he was shown how to get it unstuck. Mech asked, "Want to fix it, or just unstick it"? Dad came home and showed me how to "unstick it". lol When it stuck, you had to clutch it, and pull over. Shut it off, and lift the hood and "align the arms" a certain way.

I imagine they disappeared because a floor shift is cheaper.

Someone touched on the drum brake issue. When they get wet, plan ahead! I used to drag the brakes to dry them out.

My 70 Challenger R/T had 11" manual drums all the way around. (C- body stuff, I guess.) It stopped very well.
However, I added metallic shoes. You had to warm them, but it stopped like NOW! A very young child ran out in between 2 cars in front of me. It stopped on a dime, and I'm sure those shoes saved his life. This was back in the late 70's; yeah, wish I still had that one! BTW, the disc brake e-bodies had 10 rear drums.
 
I drove this 72 swinger special around for 2 years with a 318/ 3 on the tree.

Towards the end of the two years before I parked the car, the linkage was the problem.

One time at a red light, the 1st gear lever came loose so I was stuck in 1 st gear. That wasn't a good thing to happen when I was in a hurry. I burned myself on the exhaust manifold, trying to fix it in a hurry.

Another time it came loose and I needed to back up. So I had to put it in reverse by hand, backed out, turned the car off, manually took it out of reverse and then I drove with 2nd and 3rd home.

Then, the last day.....I was driving and heard a clank clank on the highway (sounded like a Chinese name) and it turned out to be the 1st/ reverse linkage rod. I tried to find it but I never did find it on the highway.

I parked the car and set out to 4 speed swap it. (Never did) Now I would go back to it if I could find parts or a set up from another car.

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Geez Rany that is a straight lookin car!!!
 
I have to wonder how they would have reacted to my 64 Datsun pickup with a four on the tree. :D

Must have been readin' my mind :rofl:. '66 Toyota Stout pickup comes into the station for a service one day. Boss hops in there to move it to the rack, can't get it in reverse. He gives up and heads for the phone to call his customer about it. I hop in there, put it in the lube bay, boss stands there scratching his head. "4 speed on the column Cliff, 1st is where reverse is in other cars." Weird setup but functional once you had the hang of it. Them little trucks must have had 4.88s in them, 1st gear you could probably side step the clutch and get out and walk next to it as it idled away :rofl:.
 
Drums vs discs! Like arging about motor oil. I have no problem driving in my "rural" environment with my 71 slant duster, new 9 in drums. Pretty light car. I do like my discs in the heavier 76 Roadrunner with a 318, much heavier car. NO I never had any need for rear discs personally! Some people seem too want thus.
Cell phone, I am old and don't need it. ( Got one tho, sits here on the desk) ... Yep, I can drive across country with a road map, screw GPS. Fast food,?? I rather eat a horse apple.

Nobody's making that argument. The statement has been made that drums can work well. Period.
 
A lot on this site are that way. I love it when they start blabberin all that supposedly scientific technical jargon. I mean seriously, do you think a bonifide scientist is gonna spend time here? I used to argue with um but now I just sit back and chuckle.
I take offense to this post.
I am a bonifide scientist and i spend a lot of time here.
My specialty is rockets, so i am a rocket scientist.
There are no drum brakes on rockets, but i think they would work well.
The parachutes we use are also old school and slow down the rockets well, and studies show that they work just fine.
Maybe we should upgrade them to drum brakes, what do y'all think?
When you guys mention discs, do you mean like flying saucers?
And if a 3 stage rocket that lands in a tree on the way down, is that considered a 3 in the tree?
I think that's a good thing as long as it's not too far up.
Actually, i like a 3 in the tree.
Unless the parachute gets tangled in the branches.
Then i don't like them and can see why others don't.
I hope i haven't used too much scientific jargon for y'all to follow.
I am merely enjoying the fascinating conversational interludes we have here on this site.
Rockets are my passion, that's why i went to school to become the great rocket scientist that i now am................
 
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Multiple perspectives I had not considered, thanks. BTW BB Dart with drums.
 
My wife of 42 years, says I'm a bonifide pervert. Well then, so is every other man I ever met.
When I was young, drum brakes and column shifts were the norm.
Now, I'm getting old, and so are drum brakes and column shifts.
But I can still drive it, it just takes a lil longer getting to where I wanna go.
 
I am a retired rocket scientist. But I went back to school and now I am a licensed brain surgeon, you know like an M.D. sort. I have yet to do my first surgery, I am willing to discount to the first patient. Any in need of such, takers????
 
I am a retired rocket scientist. But I went back to school and now I am a licensed brain surgeon, you know like an M.D. sort. I have yet to do my first surgery, I am willing to discount to the first patient. Any in need of such, takers????
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal labotimy! Just sayin':rofl:
 
I take offense to this post.
I am a bonifide scientist and i spend a lot of time here.
My specialty is rockets, so i am a rocket scientist.
There are no drum brakes on rockets, but i think they would work well.
The parachutes we use are also old school and slow down the rockets well, and studies show that they work just fine.
Maybe we should upgrade them to drum brakes, what do y'all think?
When you guys mention discs, do you mean like flying saucers?
And if a 3 stage rocket that lands in a tree on the way down, is that considered a 3 in the tree?
I think that's a good thing as long as it's not too far up.
Actually, i like a 3 in the tree.
Unless the parachute gets tangled in the branches.
Then i don't like them and can see why others don't.
I hope i haven't used too much scientific jargon for y'all to follow.
I am merely enjoying the fascinating conversational interludes we have here on this site.
Rockets are my passion, that's why i went to school to become the great rocket scientist that i now am................

As long as you don't try and tell us airplanes leave burnout marks from acceleration.:D
BTW, the phrase is "3 on the tree" not that I see myself as the keeper of old phrases.
 
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thay think a 3 on the tree was hard, i had this masterd by 13 tears old!
 
I take offense to this post.
I am a bonifide scientist and i spend a lot of time here.
My specialty is rockets, so i am a rocket scientist.
There are no drum brakes on rockets, but i think they would work well.
The parachutes we use are also old school and slow down the rockets well, and studies show that they work just fine.
Maybe we should upgrade them to drum brakes, what do y'all think?
When you guys mention discs, do you mean like flying saucers?
And if a 3 stage rocket that lands in a tree on the way down, is that considered a 3 in the tree?
I think that's a good thing as long as it's not too far up.
Actually, i like a 3 in the tree.
Unless the parachute gets tangled in the branches.
Then i don't like them and can see why others don't.
I hope i haven't used too much scientific jargon for y'all to follow.
I am merely enjoying the fascinating conversational interludes we have here on this site.
Rockets are my passion, that's why i went to school to become the great rocket scientist that i now am................

I'm a scientist as well, but typically butt out of any science-related discussions here. How's that Mark Twain quote about arguing go?
 

Thing is, if you can READ and COMPREHEND, the deestruckshuns are printed RIGHT THERE. LOL Kitty still has a valid forklift license. She's driven almost everything at one point, including heavy equipment she could figure that 3 stick out fairly quickly........hell, she may have driven one of those too. I'll have to ask her. lol
 
My first car was a 70 Camaro w/ straight 6 and 3 on the tree. I wanted to drive, so I learned how to master it.
Fast forward to today, there ain't no way in hell I'm buying a car with a manual transmission, let alone 3 on the tree if it was available. I'm not saying it wasn't functional, it worked fine, but so did my 13" Zenith B&W and I'm not buying another one of those either.
I love my Dart and Duster, but my daily is like sitting on a couch and rides like a champ.
Call me a snowflake or a pansy if you want, but my back and legs spoke, and I listened, no more rowing a boat.
 
My first car was a 70 Camaro w/ straight 6 and 3 on the tree. I wanted to drive, so I learned how to master it.
Fast forward to today, there ain't no way in hell I'm buying a car with a manual transmission, let alone 3 on the tree if it was available. I'm not saying it wasn't functional, it worked fine, but so did my 13" Zenith B&W and I'm not buying another one of those either.
I love my Dart and Duster, but my daily is like sitting on a couch and rides like a champ.
Call me a snowflake or a pansy if you want, but my back and legs spoke, and I listened, no more rowing a boat.
I'm just about there!
 
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