1964 Valiant "Get Runnin & Drivin"

Early A-Body Discussions

  1. RustyRatRod

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    It'd probably be worth more as a barracuda wagon.....but do what you want it will be cool either way.
     
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      I vote pure 63
       
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      • BillGrissom

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        If you haven't gotten a dual MC yet (didn't read all 30 pages), in my 1964 Valiant w/ manual brakes, I used an MC for a 1998 Breeze/Status w/ ABS (2 ports) on a 4-2 bolt adapter plate ($30 ebay). The pedal rod locked into the MC piston w/ a new rubber bushing and the pedal wound up in the same place. Search for my post. Many other options, like the 1980's Dodge truck MC. Dr Diff sells a kit w/ essentially that.
         
      • RustyRatRod

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        I do have one....and everything to do the conversion. I just have not done it yet.

        I have another video uploading now. It's of Vixen running tonight. I put the manifolds back on her last night and she's running better than ever. Video coming soon.
         
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        • RustyRatRod

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          As promised, here's the video. She purrrrrrs. lol

           
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          • RustyRatRod

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            I inspected the heat riser valve when we got back from town and it does open some at idle when hot. Also when given any gas at all hot, it opens all the way. So the spring works as designed. Took Kitty to lunch today to her favorite Mexican joint in Gray. Again, about a 22 mile round trip. Vixen rides solid as a rock. Zero squeaks or rattles and she just zips along real good.

            VIXEN AT AGAVE.jpg
             
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            • Princess Valiant

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              • Princess Valiant

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                After watching this whole video, they covered something I hadn't even thought of.

                My 63 wagon doesn't have seatbelts and I don't think it ever did. There's no bolt holes in the floor.

                That might be a problem
                 
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                Hell, after watchin that, somebody'd had to be a total dumbass to buy anything else but a Valiant in 1964. lol
                 
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                • Princess Valiant

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                  • Stephen Hotz

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                    If your vehicle was not built with seatbelts from the factory and no previous owners have added them then I know in Texas you dont have to have them. I added rear seatbelts for my boys in the 63 Fairlane but someone else added the fronts. They are all aftermarket and not oem.
                     
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                    • chryslerfat

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                      Same in Michigan. I checked on it a few years ago when my son was little and still using a car seat.
                       
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                      • barbee6043

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                        I like seat belts. Seem too many die in roll over crashes. If you have ever been hit head on by a 85 mph drunk in a'69 Linclon you will understand!
                         
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                        • Princess Valiant

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                          • Princess Valiant

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                            So I probably missed it, if it came up but what about subframe connectors??

                            Are you planning on making mods like subframe connectors or torque boxes??
                             
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                            Yes. Connectors for sure. I'll look at it closely and decide about the torque boxes. I don't "plan" to go to the track.......but you never know.
                             
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                            Definitely do some structural enhancements so the doors still shut right.
                             
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                              And man do they ever shut right now! You can almost look at them and they just go "CLUNK" and shut. lol
                               
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                              • Princess Valiant

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                                I'm really wondering if I need subframe connectors. I think a wagon body is a lot more rigid than a 2 door, with the door post right in line with the front seat back.

                                If I am going to do it, now's pretty much the time.
                                 
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                                I think Chrysler should have tied the frames together on every single one right from the factory. I think that was a mistake on their part trying to keep costs down by not doing it. I think the wagons especially, because their body is so much longer.
                                 
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                                • halfafish

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                                  I'd vote with RRR. Now is the time, the cost is small, and it can only improve handling. More length equals more leverage on your floorpan.
                                   
                                • JDMopar

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                                  Is a wagon really any longer than a 2 door or 4 door? The floor pans are all the same, and doors from a 4 door are the same as a wagon. I think the long roof creates an optical illusion, but I do agree that sub frame connectors will help any of our old cars. I think a wagon should have roof connectors also......a roof rack looks good on those cars!
                                   
                                • famous bob

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                                  Agree on the seatbelts , ever roll a pick up w/o a seatbelt on , breaking ur neck !??!
                                   
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                                  No I have no, but I have seen a few killed for it.
                                   
                                • Valiant63

                                  Valiant63 Early A-body Valiants

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                                  The early A-body wagon is no longer then the valiant sedan. In fact the 63 to 66 Dart station wagons or shorter than their Dart sedan counterparts because they are all based on the shorter Valiant body.

                                  I think if you are putting a bigger engine into the early A-body than what was meant to be in it or making an engine that has more horsepower and especially torque, then you might need frame connectors. But if you have an engine that’s under 250 hp then I don’t think the frame connectors are needed at all unless the body is already compromised with rust or accident damage, or if you’re doing a four-door to two door conversion.
                                   
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