273 rocker losing adjustment

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Not in a rush to install them, but they're here when I need them.

Now the question is, is it worth trying to rig something up to spot face the rockers with drill press, or is a file good enough and quick enough?
I think the spot facing involved was for the jam nut to seat against. not sure the ones pictured would contact the rocker arm flat area with the built-in washer. at least, that's my take. someone with more experience will set us both on the correct path.
 
The adjuster is either being turned by the pushrod, or the threads are worn to where the up and down rocks the adjuster up the threads until it's loose. Both are hard to imagine but there's no doubt it's happening.

I expect to continue to have problems with these things, honestly. I could've and should've cut my losses when I found that 273 rockers won't work without grinding on OOTB Edelbrock valve springs. I could've had a set of Mancini HS rockers but instead here I am.

I wonder if the Mancini adjusters impact the pushrod length - they might work fine since it's the same rocker body and the spot facing doesn't affect that at all.
There’s a very good chance that the Mancini rockers would hit the Edelbrock springs as well. Most aftermarket rockers need to be moved up and away from the valve to clear the spring retainer, unless beehive springs are used.
 
There’s a very good chance that the Mancini rockers would hit the Edelbrock springs as well. Most aftermarket rockers need to be moved up and away from the valve to clear the spring retainer, unless beehive springs are used.
MRE - Aluminum Roller Rocker Arm Kit : "valve springs up to 1.650 diameter"

Edelbrock 5767 Edelbrock Sure Seat Valve Springs | Summit Racing :
Brand:
Edelbrock
Manufacturer's Part Number:
5767
Part Type:
Valve Springs
...
Outside Diameter of Outer Spring (in.):
1.460 in.

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A fill will be fine, although slow.
Yeah. It's a lot of material too. once you've done 16 of them.

Was thinking about rigging up a way to mount the rocker by the adjuster threads to my drill press, then using a die grinder arbor with a 60-grit 2" disc to do the deed.

I think I might be able to bolt a piece of all-thread to the table, sized so it stops short of the grinding, then screw the rocker down on it. Position the table (rocker) under the disc, and go to work.
 
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Yeah. It's a lot of material too. once you've done 16 of them.

Was thinking about rigging up a way to mount the rocker by the adjuster threads to my drill press, then using a die grinder arbor with a 60-grit 2" disc to do the deed.

I think I might be able to bolt a piece of all-thread to the table, sized so it stops short of the grinding, then screw the rocker down on it. Position the table (rocker) under the disc, and go to work.
You can get a cheap end mill for the drill press that'd make quick work of it.
 
You can get a cheap end mill for the drill press that'd make quick work of it.
Plunge cutting with an end mill in drill press might work, but if there is any clearance in the spindle bearings bad things might happen. That endmill is gonna have to be probably 5/8 or three-quarter inch diameter and it’s gonna wanna grab and wobble unless the drill press spindle bearings are almost perfect. You’re also gonna need a very rigid set up so the rocker arm can’t move. It will have to be clamped very securely to the table. If I had the option, I would use the disk sander. I would probably try to rough them all in with a hand angle grinder and then finish on the dish sander to get them flat the last 16th of an inch or so. Depends on how much you have to take off.
 
You can get a cheap end mill for the drill press that'd make quick work of it.
Plunge cutting with an end mill in drill press might work, but if there is any clearance in the spindle bearings bad things might happen
My tiny little drill press isn't up to milling much of anything. I think it would spin the 60 grit just fine though.

If I had the option, I would use the disk sander

I've got a craftsman vertical and flatbed sander but it's lost in a garage full of crap and stacks of canned food. I looked for it yesterday; I know where it is but I can't even see it right now. It would take hours to dig it out and would incur the wrath of SWMBO. So I'm going to work the drill press angle first.
 
I had forgotten that @Oldmanmopar posted a photo of a similar setup to what I envisioned, but on an actual milling machine

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From 273 Rocker Arm modification jig for locking adjusters
 
Where there is a will there is a way.

You could do something very similar with a drill press, a decent vice and a counterbore bit.

The trick is getting everything aligned and if it were me, and all I had was a drill press, I'd take the little fixture OMM made and chuck the "bolt" lightly into the drill press to allow me to get it into the vice or clamped down after adjusting the drill press table, then I know for a fact my drill press is aligned. At that point, I'd use a counterbore, gently and get it done.

A mill is WAY better, but people in this thread have successfully used a stinking file.

Nothing screams rocket science about this.
 
Where there is a will there is a way.

You could do something very similar with a drill press, a decent vice and a counterbore bit.

The trick is getting everything aligned and if it were me, and all I had was a drill press, I'd take the little fixture OMM made and chuck the "bolt" lightly into the drill press to allow me to get it into the vice or clamped down after adjusting the drill press table, then I know for a fact my drill press is aligned. At that point, I'd use a counterbore, gently and get it done.

A mill is WAY better, but people in this thread have successfully used a stinking file.

Nothing screams rocket science about this.
Clamping the odd shaped rocker in the vice would be the most difficult. An adjuster chucked up in the drill press and screwed into the hole in the rocker will locate it. Then clamp the rocker down in the vice and unscrew the adjuster or unchuck it then unscrew it. The rocker will then be aligned with the chuck and whatever tool you use in it to mill the surface.
 
Clamping the odd shaped rocker in the vice would be the most difficult. An adjuster chucked up in the drill press and screwed into the hole in the rocker will locate it. Clamp it down in the vice and unscrew it or unchuck it then unscrew it. The rocker will then be aligned with the chuck and whatever tool you use in it to mill the surface.

You missed some context. If you look at the link for how OMM did it, it will make sense. Post #60 above
 
You missed some context. If you look at the link for how OMM did it, it will make sense. Post #60 above
That works too if you have the steel block to clamp in the mill vice. Making a fixture would be perfect if you were going to do numerous sets. One set modified using the neighbor's drill press can be pretty simple and more accurite than a hand file
 
That works too if you have the steel block to clamp in the mill vice. Making a fixture would be perfect if you were going to do numerous sets. One set modified using the neighbor's drill press can be pretty simple and more accurite than a hand file

Yup, again its all about will.

That fixture is just a block of aluminum and a bolt. nothing fancy that couldn't be made in about 10 mins. It's a clever way to mount the rockers that's for sure.
 
Yup, again its all about will.

That fixture is just a block of aluminum and a bolt. nothing fancy that couldn't be made in about 10 mins. It's a clever way to mount the rockers that's for sure.
For some. I sold my drill press. It would cost me a few hundred and a half day of shopping to put together that combination. I would have to check around town for an end mill. I bet I could find a machine shop to do them faster and cheaper. LOL
 
For some. I sold my drill press. It would cost me a few hundred and a half day of shopping to put together that combination. I would have to check around town for an end mill. I bet I could find a machine shop to do them faster and cheaper. LOL

Ha well that does put a damper in things. Personally unless I'm using my mill, I'm not using an end mill. I'd use a counterbore since it's just a facing operation.
 
I had forgotten that @Oldmanmopar posted a photo of a similar setup to what I envisioned, but on an actual milling machine

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From 273 Rocker Arm modification jig for locking adjusters
This is probably the most rigid/stable setup I've seen and should give a nice flat surface so the nut will be flush when torqued. You would be surprised how much that endmill will want to push the work piece around if it isn't anchored securely. The larger the mill, the more important the rigidity.
 
Did the Loctite orange fail?
All I've done is start it so far, no driving. TBH I've had enough of panic attacks thinking I've killed the cam or worse. It's no fun turning around and limping home while hoping you make it before the tapping turns into a miss or worse no oil pressure when it kicks a loose pushrod out.

I should have the adjusters installed before the weekend is over. Then I can move on.
 
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