1. shotgunvic64

    shotgunvic64 Well-Known Member

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    The shoes looked identical to me.
     
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    Typically the rear shoe pad is longer. Green in the picture. They can be all long though. Make sure you didn't put two shorts on the other side.
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    • RustyRatRod

      RustyRatRod I was born on a Monday. Not last Monday. FABO Gold Member

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      See that bar between the shoes under the wheel cylinder? That's the reaction bar. I don't believe they are on the front, but there IS a return spring that goes in about the same place, I believe. I haven't gotten to my service manual yet. My books are buried because we're still havin laminate flooring put in and everything is in ONE room. LOL
       
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      Daves69 Well-Known Member

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      You are correct. It is for applying the rear parking brake.
       
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      jas0162 Well-Known Member

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      Remember B.O.B..... big on back.
       
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      • mobileparts

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        Too bad you have gone ahead and put that new garbage lining of today on there -- and you probably don't want to do it again ---
        but I have some ++ N.O.S. ++ Asbestos ++ Brake Shoes -- Fronts & Rears --- the nicest, smoooooothest braking known to mankind;
        and with you having a heat issue to crack brake drums; you REALLY NEED the ++ N.O.S. ++ Asbestos ++ more than most!!!!!!!!
         
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      • halifaxhops

        halifaxhops It's going to get stupid around here! FABO Gold Member

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        Should be one keeps the top of the shoes aligned. Just did my 64 and it had them.
         
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        Another thing to watch for is the eyelet on the adjuster cable. Mine wanted to drag/rub against the return spring. Mine jumped off. I think all I did was reverse which spring went on first to give a little more room for the eyelet not to rub.
         
      • Mattax

        Mattax Just the facts, ma'am FABO Gold Member

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        I agree that both look the same in the photo.
        Also missing are the shoe hold downs.
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        Below is a photo flipped from Chrysler's 1963 Master Tech Servo-Contact Brake Service book.
        Notice the secondary shoe lining is much longer than the primary.
        The original shoes are a little different than the ones you bought. However all the holes look correct - its probably an acceptable replacement.
        Shoes are retained against the backing plate with washer, pin and spring hold downs; range arrows.
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        Looks like long shoe on the front to me too.
        And yes you need the little washer/retainer for the top pin under the spring ends.
         
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        Since, based on other's comments, you are going to need to take everything back apart -- now is the perfect time to replace it with the ++ N.O.S. ++ Asbestos ++ that you should have used in the first place!!!!!
        At least now, you CAN be PERFECT.......
        Yours, Craig....
         
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        Re the triangle washer at the top, pretty sure there is not one for 9" drums (my 64 Valiant). There is one for 10" drums (my 65 Dart). I was kicking myself, assuming I lost parts, even though I very carefully put all in labelled ziplock bags, then found photos on the internet. I have the FSM's, but they might have only shown the 10" drums. I agree w/ the shoe linings. The gomer who rebuilt the brakes messed that up on my Valiant (2 short shoes on one side), which is likely why it pulled to one side. Otherwise, the springs look right, though I don't see the shoe hold-down pins. I vaguely recall an early system which used tapered springs for the hold-downs, which might be in your photo. I put the later self-adjusters on my cars, which I hear is improved. It has a springed hook-arm on the bottom of the adjuster cable. I bought in a "hardware kit" for ~1973 Dart at Autozone. I had to re-use the old shoe pins on my 65 Dart because 1973 pins are longer (wider shoes).
         
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