Help ID a tranny off of craigslist

[hemitheus]

So i got this transmission off of a guy on craigslist. He claims it is out of a 64 dart and is a 3 speed. The tranny was caked in grime 1/2' thick on the clean parts. but it was almost free. So i got it. Dont have a pressure washer so my saturday AM, scrapers, oven cleaner and a hose spent some quality time together. Its almost clean, the nuimbers i did acquire so far are C 13303 G and 8 24 77. What do those represent? is the 8 24 77 August the 24th 1977? If so I dont even know if this guy knew what he was talking about with the 64 dart thing. Also the shifter, which wasnt attached when i got it is a hurst shifter.

Help me id this tranny. Are there other niumbers I should be looking for?

 

[Bad Sport]

How about a pic? Where are those numbers located on the trans?

 

[hemitheus]

more numbers off of it. pp833 1218

 

[hemitheus]

dont let the pic fool you. it was filthy before. scraped off a pound and a half of grime.

 

[NC Engine Builder]

Looks like a truck trans, pos a overdrive

 

[Bad Sport]

Look on the bellhousing and see if you see any numbers like in the link. Maybe an 833

http://www.rosevillemoparts.com/reference_castingnumbers5.php

 

[hemitheus]

any idea where on the bellhousing these numbers are? didnt see any when i was cleaning it. going to go look again

OD 4spd tranny would be AWESOME. especially since i bought it thinking it was a 3spd.

 

[CudaJunction]

Overdrive B n E body trans with slant bellhousing

 

[Bad Sport]

any idea where on the bellhousing these numbers are? didnt see any when i was cleaning it. going to go look again

OD 4spd tranny would be AWESOME. especially since i bought it thinking it was a 3spd.

No, just trying to help you solve your dilemma, I wouldn't be surprised that's what you have.

 

[hemitheus]

it has nothing on the bell housing at all.

on the tail shaft is also has

:037
C-9953
ss3 (but the 3 is stamped and the rest is raised)

on the shift plate cover c135 50

no other markings except a pentastar and "ace co"

 

[hemitheus]

well I guess I should just finish cleaning it up and test the shift pattern

1 3
2 4 R

or

R 1 3
2 4

 

[hemitheus]

Overdrive B n E body trans with slant bellhousing

your opinion or are you making an educated guess?

 

[Bad Sport]

I found this: http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=44853

Could they be stamped on the mating surface where the trans bolts to the housing?

Hey if nothing else I'm learning something, in between chasing the 2 two year old grandchildren around, LOL.

EDIT: I do find multiple sites that say the numbers are on the bell somewhere.

 

[67Dart273]

Find neutral. Then take a wrench on the front shift shaft (3/4) and turn it RIGHT (CW). That is 3rd gear on a 4 speed, OD gear on an OD gearbox. Then just turn the input shaft ONE turn and watch the output.

If the output turns LESS than one turn with the input, it's a 4 speed

If the output turns MORE than one turn with the output, it's an OD

Turning the shaft LEFT (CCW) will be 1:1, or straight through, on EITHER a 4 speed or OD.

 

[wolfhammer]

looks like a b/e body 4 speed. note the 2 shifter pads. also looks like an aluminum case. def not 3 speed and not a '64. if it was a '64 it would have a ball and trunnion flanged tail shaft........just my 2 cents

 

[hemitheus]

man you guys all rock.... thanks.

I am pretty excited. OD in a slant. SWEET

 

[Bad Sport]

:cheers: Did you find the numbers?

 

[Bad Sport]

How did you determine the trans?

 

[hemitheus]

some of them, yes

no real numeric based ID though

 

[NC Engine Builder]

Its a TRUCK transmission, they never put overdrives in B or E bodys, people see the dual shifter pad and assume B or E body, but thats how the truck transmissions look

 

[hemitheus]

^^^ thanks.

So if i were to use this in my 64 valiant id either need to custom fab a hump OR replace the tailshaft with one from an A833 from an a-body?

 

[67Dart273]

Hell, I wouldn't. The installed length of a long shaft A833 is the same as an A727 Torqueflite. I would think with the dual shifter mounts you should be able to fab / modify shifter arms if necessary. The mount/ crossmember should fit same as it does an A-727

 

[hemitheus]

Same length? I have a 904 but thats awesome. Will the auto yokes and ujoints be the same? and the mounts?

 

[caferacerx]

Same length? Really? thats awesome. Will the auto yokes and ujoints be the same? and the mounts?

same length as a 727 NOT same as a 904
and you can make an adapter to move the shifter location
I will look for the link

 

[hemitheus]

same length as a 727 NOT same as a 904
and you can make an adapter to move the shifter location
I will look for the link

Sweet... thanks