Its tempting BUT I am by NO MEANS an engine builder or have access to a dyno. Nick's us about 3-4 hours from me. Be interesting to "see" what the difference is between a lowrise DQ and a LD340.
Idea for a virtual and true ENGINEMASTERS CHALLENGE
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What was the “low rise DQ?”
Down here in the 75 degree weather
(, it means Dairy Queen!
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Cool idea, I'd be interested in getting involved if it happens in the states eventually
I guess it depends on how it's judged or ruled. Maybe a power per cubic inch rule? I don't know. It's not my idea......but I do like it.
Maybe a rule that says no porting that changes the intake runners, but bowl blending is ok? Some of the factory bowls have horrible ledges. Again, it's not my game.
Just make different classes, big block, small block, then iron heads, aluminum and so on. Let the shivvy and furd boys play. I want to see some mopar stomping. And when **** blows up, we may learn what not to do. Make them put in a car and drive 1000 miles for the win like a drag week thingy. Oh yeah, make an amateur class as well.
Ahhhhhhhh!!!
The whole thing is an amateur class.
While we do indeed have a few pro builders, and I think you know who they are….. they can compete amongst themselves (so to speak) and the hobby guys, everyone else, can just duke it out between themselves. Ether way, it’s a win win. We get to see who does what, maybe explain why and see how it performs.
We kind of have this in the race sections sticky spot up top with the “How to or how I ran 14, 13, 12, 11, 10, 9’s and quicker threads. Granted it’s (or should be) more than just an engine description since it was laid out for anyone to read what it takes to get there CAR and not just the engine into a certain time zone.
Plenty of guys have added their rides!
It’s really a mini gold mine taking a lot of guess work out for a new guy or someone looking to really step it up.
RAMM said he missed the engine masters competition. I believe he is going along the same lines and rules with maybe a added or subtracted rule.
After all, this should be fun. It’s a friendly competition between FABO’er members. There’s no prizes involved! Just a chance to show you got your **** going on. That’s it.
Like I said, I’m game if it can be set up here in the states.
It’s EZ getting into Canada. They’re like, “Sure! Come on in and enjoy! Have a great time!”
Getting into the USA….. they greet you with a mean face and a scowl, they give you an evil smile, hole up there right hand and snap the runner glove tight with there left & say…
“Sir! Please kindly step out of the car for an inspection and walk over to and behind the green screen.”
Then you walk out from behind the screen looking like Woody Allen after his solo trip through the “Orgasmtron” only to see your car in pieces needing reassembly. Followed by….
Thank you SIR! Welcome to the United States of America, move along, move along…..”
Interesting idea, seems like agreeing on parameters is going to be like herding cats.
That’s true. We will never agree. RAMM has to listen to ideas and thoughts and not worry to much on concerns and other peoples bitching about something they don’t like. If someone doesn’t want to join in, tough crap is what I’d say.
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Make it a real challenge 273 based engine with a 300ci limit.
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I like this idea. Even a 318 would be cheap and easily available.
I like that idea, except. Let's have two classes.
small block 273- 318 ci
big block 361- 400ci.
67autocross
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Exactly…
67autocross
A new iron curtain drawn across the 49th parallel
There might be three 273 cores left in all of Canada…
67autocross
A new iron curtain drawn across the 49th parallel
I agree with you…see what I did there
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No you didn't .... See what I did there
thesiren74
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That sucks! They used them in other vehicles besides car's.
67autocross
A new iron curtain drawn across the 49th parallel
Like snowmobiles…
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Using Speedmaster opens the contest to everyone financially versus W2/Brodix/Indybrock, $, W5, W9.Well that’s not my problem now is it?
Magnums & LA’s are relatively Available/cheap (my guess) everywhere.
But as devil’s advocate, there are (seems like) more 440’s for sale here in Texas than all the abodies ever made. So availability isn’t a problem if people want to do big blocks.
Rumblefish, how does exotic machine work threaten competition versus skilled porting?
What machining/porting would you suggest be acceptable in a competition?
Like boring, align-honing, decking the blocks-basics acceptable.?.
No exotic parts???
I like the idea of a competition truly open to the public. More entries, more glory to the winner, more camaraderie among the competition.
If people wanted other brands participating, perhaps 351 Windsor engines (no cleavors) and SBC with a specific displacement limitation or range.?
LMAO! While I don’t know if you can still get the W2 head, at the last pricing I seen, approximately $650 per bare head, give or take, it’s not exactly in line with cheap chink heads price wise. The only thing you’re adding to the head is valves, retainers and locks. Springs you say? Will the springs on a cheap as chink head hold up to a nice .600 solid cam?
Nooooooooooooooo it won’t! (LOL!)
So now add springs to the head. Still cheapest cost and crapiest flow.
The W2/5 are the cheapest. Never mind a W9.
This statement is off balance and assuming as if someone is walking in with W9 heads all done and ready to rock.
Besides, this is ready a question for someone else.
NOT ME! Thank you very much!
Define cheap that doesn’t need a rebuild. Further more, what stock head is race ready?
IMO, a person that has never ported a head before is going to get creamed vs a pro porter. That’s also how I seen “Exotic Machine work.”
I’d also like to say, “Seriously, are you F’in kidding me here?!?!”
Not my game, I have no dog.
Isn’t that possibly the basic machining of an engine block?
Why would you think that’s not OK and even more so when no rules have been talked about by the person who has the idea, the OP, RAMM.
What’s exotic to you?
I like a Mopar only, FABO only with a minimum post count to enter. This helps keep this idea a true in house - so to speak - competition.
The only engine that shouldn’t need a rebuild that hasn’t already been rebuilt would be a Magnum engine or a new Hemi. Both do not meet the OP’s idea and thoughts of the stated big block idea.
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