Need help finding correct pitman arm!

[ninesixxjr]

Hello everyone, a while back I bought a mopar power steering box for my 1969 dodge dart off Facebook market place, I'm not sure what mopar it came off since its been so long but I finally got around to installing it into my car. Now I'm having trouble finding a pit man arm that will fit. Currently i have tried part number k7074 and the steering box side of the arm will not fit as it is too small so i believe i have a larger sector shaft box but i still am unable to track down a pit man arm with that same bent shape and large sector shaft size. Any help is greatly appreciated and thank you all in advanced!

 

[Professor Fate]

Firmfeel Mopar Suspension and Steering

 

[RustyRatRod]

Put a dial caliper on the ID of the pittman arm and measure it.

 

[ninesixxjr]

Firmfeel Mopar Suspension and Steering

Thanks! but dang 200$ is pretty steep for a pitman arm, I think im coming to the conclusion that this box would need a decent amount of conversion to work, i might be better off just upgrading to a brand new quick ratio box.

 

[ninesixxjr]

Put a dial caliper on the ID of the pittman arm and measure it.

Im pretty sure there is two sizes, a large and small sector shaft and this pitman arm is a small sector shaft and the steering box is a large sector shaft

 

[RustyRatRod]

Im pretty sure there is two sizes, a large and small sector shaft and this pitman arm is a small sector shaft and the steering box is a large sector shaft

Ok. Carry on.

 

[GTX JOHN]

I have about 100 old NOS Moog Suspension parts for
A body (Out of Bob Mazzolini's Closed shop))
I have the catalog and I will look Monday if you are interested.
It will be 1/2 the price of Firmfeel. let me know if you are interested.

 

[Dana67Dart]

https://www.bigblockdart.com/threads/moog-chrysler-suspension-part-numbers.45859/

 

[toolmanmike]

Hello everyone, a while back I bought a mopar power steering box for my 1969 dodge dart off Facebook market place,

Herein lies the problem. It is best to get your steering box rebuilt or buy thr correct gear from places like Steer and Gear or Firm Feel. Why do you think you need a different gear?

 

[S'cuder]

I don't think a large sector shaft pitman arm was made by the factory for an A-body with the stud pointing up in the 1972 and earlier configuration. The Firm Feel piece is probably the easy way out. Otherwise you could be looking at going to the '73 and later setup which would require a pitman arm, idler arm and center link. You'd likely spend close to $200 on that. The upside being that if you needed to replace your pitman arm in the future, you could use a factory style replacement.

 

[autoxcuda]

If it’s large sector you will need:

73-76 A-body power steering Pitman (new)
73-76 A-body center link (used)
73-76 A- body idler arm (new)

Look at Rockauto or you local parts store for the new parts. Will be much less expensive than firmfeel.

Looks like $54 total for new moog pitman and idler.

Pitman:

Idlers:

 

[RustyRatRod]

Im pretty sure there is two sizes, a large and small sector shaft and this pitman arm is a small sector shaft and the steering box is a large sector shaft

After all these other responses, is it beginning to DAWN on you yet as to why I suggested measuring to be 100% SURE?

 

[Hellrats]

Good luck. Mix and match doesn't always end well. Just saying.

 

[cudamark]

How about just getting the correct small sector shaft steering gear so things stay stock for your year.

 

[ninesixxjr]

Herein lies the problem. It is best to get your steering box rebuilt or buy thr correct gear from places like Steer and Gear or Firm Feel. Why do you think you need a different gear?

In the process of rebuilt the box myself i ended up dropping and cracking the steering box to the point where it was unusable. I thought i could get away with getting a used one but now I think ill just buy a brand new replacement and keep moving forward.

 

[ninesixxjr]

I don't think a large sector shaft pitman arm was made by the factory for an A-body with the stud pointing up in the 1972 and earlier configuration. The Firm Feel piece is probably the easy way out. Otherwise you could be looking at going to the '73 and later setup which would require a pitman arm, idler arm and center link. You'd likely spend close to $200 on that. The upside being that if you needed to replace your pitman arm in the future, you could use a factory style replacement.

Ok thank you for the info. That's what i was starting to think. I think i should just replace the box with a correct year one and get on with the build.

 

[ninesixxjr]

If it’s large sector you will need:

73-76 A-body power steering Pitman (new)
73-76 A-body center link (used)
73-76 A- body idler arm (new)

Look at Rockauto or you local parts store for the new parts. Will be much less expensive than firmfeel.

Looks like $54 total for new moog pitman and idler.

Pitman:
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Idlers:

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This may be an option if i can find a center link. But im not sure i want to convert it all over to the larger size just because i messed up getting the wrong box. I really appreciate the info though!

 

[ninesixxjr]

After all these other responses, is it beginning to DAWN on you yet as to why I suggested measuring to be 100% SURE?

Not sure if this post is supposed to be condescending and if it is, there's no need for that. I did measure the pitman arm and steering box and that's why i said the pitman arm is the smaller size and the steering box is the bigger sized sector shaft. i do appreciate the help just seems like the message is a little rude.

 

[ninesixxjr]

Good luck. Mix and match doesn't always end well. Just saying.

I agree, I think ill just get the correct box and be done with it.

 

[ninesixxjr]

How about just getting the correct small sector shaft steering gear so things stay stock for your year.

Get the correct small shaft steering gear as in replace the one in the current box? is that something i can do? or do you mean change the box to a small sector shaft box?

 

[RustyRatRod]

Not sure if this post is supposed to be condescending and if it is, there's no need for that. I did measure the pitman arm and steering box and that's why i said the pitman arm is the smaller size and the steering box is the bigger sized sector shaft. i do appreciate the help just seems like the message is a little rude.

Absolutely not. Here's my point. Let's say WHAT IF the pittman arm you have was mis boxed and is something other than what it's supposed to be? Happens every single day. Your unwillingness to make a simple measurement might just send you down a rabbit hole you don't need to go down. Why not at least VERIFY? That way, you know what you have or don't have. Right now, you're only guessing. You are assuming you have a large sector shaft, and you probably do. "Probably" has never been good enough for me. This could avoid you spending unnecessary money. Condescending? No. Helpful? Yes.

 

[ninesixxjr]

Absolutely not. Here's my point. Let's say WHAT IF the pittman arm you have was mis boxed and is something other than what it's supposed to be? Happens every single day. Your unwillingness to make a simple measurement might just send you down a rabbit hole you don't need to go down. Why not at least VERIFY? That way, you know what you have or don't have. Right now, you're only guessing. You are assuming you have a large sector shaft, and you probably do. "Probably" has never been good enough for me. This could avoid you spending unnecessary money. Condescending? No. Helpful? Yes.

I did measure... thats how i knew the pitman arm was the size of the smaller sector shaft. Im not here to argue i just don't like the hostility.

 

[RustyRatRod]

I did measure... thats how i knew the pitman arm was the size of the smaller sector shaft. Im not here to argue i just don't like the hostility.

No one has been hostile. At all. You are inferring it incorrectly. As I've said many times in the past. We're car guys here. We don't powder butts and tell bedtime stories and tuck people in. We tell the truth. I'm glad you measured. This is information you could have initially included that would have avoided all this. I wish you luck with your project.